"EC rout in BCS? Southern snobs need to know ND's schedule has been tougher than Bama's and UGA's"

There is no logic that says ND should not be in the title game.

Bama Florida and Georgia all deserve a spot above them. K State and Oregon debatable.

Bama and Georgia will have their shot to get in, Florida did not win their division. K-State lost HUGE to Baylor, BAYLOR. Oregon lost a tough one against Stanford, true, but did not win their division either.

Notre Dame is undefeated and that still counts for something.

Notre Dame played a TOUGH schedule and EARNED their spot as the #1 team in the country. Those are the facts.

I really think Florida should be #2 with their schedule. They definitely had the toughest schedule of the 1 loss teams.

Name 4 good teams they beat. I'll give you 2. Stanford and Oklahoma. Now, you give me 2 more. They played as easy a schedule as you can find.

I'm not friends with Lee Corso so I cant have him come post on the forum for me. However, if I were, I'm sure he would agree any one loss SEC team is clearly a better team than an undefeated ND team. Vegas thinks so too seeing as how Bama will be a 10.5 point favorite over ND if they make the NC game.

I believe you are the only one who believes this, even amongst a handful of people who do not like the Irish. Quite frankly I don't care how tough you think the schedule was, it was "SEC tough" and the facts clearly support that.

Look at my first post. Shaun even broke it down for you, what more evidence do you need?

Don't try and pretend that I'm the delusional one. I'm done speaking on this topic until after the National Championship Game.

SO I have to find someone who agrees with me but I'm not allowed to use anyone who agrees with me as a source? Huh?!

Look - things are not equal in college football. Florida has to play in a conference that is loaded with college football's top teams and dont get to cherry pick a 12 cupcake schedule. They are forced to play Uga, Texas AnM, South Carolina, etc. On top of that, they choose to play Florida State instead of Navy, BYU, Purdue, Boston College, etc. When you weigh in their strength of schedule vs ND's weaker schedule its fair to say they are clearly more deserving of a national title shot than a team that needed a bad Pitt team to miss a FG in OT to stay undefeated.
Thats just my opinion. YOu are allowed to be biased because of your ND love and disagree.

I think that Notre Dame, based on the difficulty of this year's schedule, and the difficult opponent they'll face in the National Championship, IF they win it all, then they should be awarded a National Championship for the next 10 years.

A quick google search netted me this:

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/...h-cant-hang-with-sec-in-national-championship



If I get bored later and feel like spending 5 mins looking I'll probably find more.

"Indisputable facts" ... More like the opinion of an "expert writer" Self proclaimed I'm sure. This is all very subjectable and we can all sit here and argue this and that but its pointless. As Irishbearcat stated, HATE... I'm a Buckeyes fan but aside from that I do hate the Notre Dame Fighting Irish, but with that said I'm not a hater and I respect what they have done this year. They do deserve to be in the Championship game, the argument is funny because while all these fans are touting the strength of schedule. Everyone else is just saying it's going to be a blow out.. LOL

I don't care what some system deems to be a hard schedule biased off of early season EXPECTATIONS. The fact is ND only played Stanford and a weak OU squad. Michigan & Mich State?? Ehhh, I expect more out of a 7-5 USC squad than them. With that said, you need to look beyond the fact that Stanford is 17th and OU 8th. WHY are they actually this rank? Stanford, the SEC is in a slump this year?? The PAC 12 was horrible this year, and Stanford beat up on a bunch of weak PAC 12 teams to include Duke, San Jose State... And some of the weak wins were CLOSE, and losing to a Washington team? Really?? The Sooners played 2 good teams all year and lost both games. To K State & ND. Edging out close wins in Big 12 play, and beating on UTEP, Florida A&M...

As stated the SEC is tough, I think the past decade has proved this. When any given week you can play LSU, UGA, UF, BAMA etc... The time to prep is low, what helps a lot of these schools is the fact they have time to put in a whole different look and game plan heavy for these bowl games. Playing within a tough conference such as the SEC you don't have the time to do all this. This is why teams like Boise State can show up in January and put on a show against a "power house" team. Or these 2A schools open week 1 with in win over a ranked team. This will definitely help the Irish regardless of who they play UGA or BAMA.

I don't think it will be a blow out in any sense. I just can't wait until the playoff system takes in effect so these silly type of threads can cease. And all the drama on the websites, blogs etc... Because any given day anyone can win. I'd rather see you take out 2-3 TOP NOTCH teams in a row to do it. Another thing I don't like is the fact most teams have a conference championship to play in. While Independents an small conferences don't have them. But anywho... Can't wait for Bama to kick ND's ass, because I hate them! LOL

I think you put more weight into what a team's SOS rating is than I do. I dont care if a team A's rating is .45 and team B's is .55. If they are Wake Forest and Navy I just look at them like they both suck. I'm looking at true teams that can actually test a good team. Stanford and Oklahoma are the only 2 that show up on ND's schedule.

The SEC, on the other hand, has to beat up on each other each and every week. Would Auburn be 3-9 if they played in the B1G? No The Big East? No they would probably win the conference. I look at teh true talent of the team rather than the record. If you truly think ND is more deserving to play in the national championship than a SEC team then surely you were a proponent of Boise State, TCU, and Ball State playing for the national championship in the years they went undefeated as well. After all, they went undefeated just like ND didnt they?

You cant just look at records and think that is what makes a team. You have to look at who teams play. That is where I'm coming from

You guys are too tied up in numbers and BS formulas, the very sense to why the whole BCS system is broke dick. A team's SOS is subjectable to a ton of variables(of opinion to the persons who created these formulas). Fact is as stated a dozen of times ND played OU & Stanford. And preseason #1 team (7-5) with a backup Freshman QB. Overall did they play a pretty solid sched? YES... But to say its .6960459 tougher because Carolina State is a 2A school and Navy makes me yawn. The cries that Bama, GA and the rest of the SEC play cake 2A schools, OU, Stanford and the rest of the country playing within a conference actually do the same damn thing. But the all mighty independent Irish are just so righteous with their money hungry TV deals they play blockbuster games every Saturday. We'll see come January if all this hype is worth anything.