2014 Most Outstanding Player of the Year Award Voting

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Who is the Alumni Nation 2014 Most Outstanding Player?

Poll closed Oct 21, 2011.
  1. Jacob Bennett (Bay) 294 rsh, 2182 yrds, 26 TDs, 182 YPG, 7.4 YPC, 2 Fumb, 36 catch, 451 yrds, 5 TDs

    45.5%
  2. Suleiman Masumbuko (Bay) 42 tcks, 33 solo, 9 ATK, 23 TFL, 19.5 sacks, 1 FF

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  3. Mike Bellamy (Clem) 195 rsh, 1615 yrds, 25 TD, 8.2 YPC, 4 fumb, 25 catch, 422 yrd, 4 TDs, 1KR+1PR TD

    54.5%
  4. Justin Parker (Clem) 73 tck, 37 solo, 36 ATK, 10 TFL, 3 Sacks, 2 DFL, 2 FF, 1 FR, 1 FG Block

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  5. Josh Moten (CU) 43 tck, 22 solo, 21 ATK, 4 TFL, 7 INTs, 7 DFL, 1 TD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  6. Jack Washington (ILL) 35 tck, 21 solo, 14 ATK, 5 TFL, 1 Sack, 4 INTs, 6 DFL, 1 FF, 2 FR, 2 TDs

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  7. Dennis Thomas (KU) 25 tck, 15 solo, 10 ATK, 3 TFL, 11 INTs, 4 DEFL, 4 TDs (missed 4 games with INJ)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  8. Darrian Miller (KU) 4 rush TDs, 2 rec TDs, 3 KR TDs, 39.1 AVG/KR, 2 PR TDs, 15.2 AVG/PR, LONG 87

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  9. Jawara White (UK) 78 tck, 54 solo, 24 ATK, 20 TFL, 9.5 sacks, 4 DEFL, 2 FF, 3 FR, 1 SFTY, 1 TD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  10. LeVeon Bell (Mich St) 207 rsh, 1817 yrd, 19 TDs, 8.7 YPC, 7 FUMB, 1 Rec TD

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  11. Lee Mann (Mich St) 125-204 1598 yrds, 21 TDs, 3 INTs, 21 Sacks, 113 yrds rush, 2 TDs, 10 Fumb

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  12. Kevin Parks (UVA) 173 rsh, 1612 yrds, 20 TDs, 9.3 YPC,2 Fumb, 230 rec yrds, 2 TDs, 1 KR TD(INJ 2gms)

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  13. Brian Riley (WSU) 29 Tcks, 15 Solo, 14 ATK, 1 TFL, 8 INT, 9 DEFL, 2 TDs

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  14. Brian Athey (WVU) 160-249 2733 yrds, 24 TDs, 16 INTs, 37 sacks, 2 rush TD, 2 Fumb

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%
  15. Andrew Buie (WVU) 196 rsh, 1523 yrds, 19 TDs, 7.7 YPC, 1 Fumb, 328 rec yrd, 2 TDs

    0 vote(s)
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  1. Michael Woodward

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    Sorry Miss State, no contenders for most outstanding player.....However, that means you are a team unit, not individuals!
     
  2. Michael Woodward

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    Jacob Bennett RB
    Suleiman Masumbuko DT
    Mike Bellamy RB
    Justin Parker LOLB
    Josh Moten CB
    Jack Washington CB
    Dennis Thomas CB
    Darrian Miller RB
    Jawara White ROLB
    LeVeon Bell RB
    Lee Mann QB
    Kevin Parks RB
    Brian Riley CB
    Brian Athey QB
    Andrew Buie RB

    The reason I don't put these next to their names and abbreviate so much is because I only have so much space on each choice....Like on Mike Bellamy, that's as many characters as I am allowed.
     
  3. areohhwhy

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    Went with Bennett. one day i'll get good enough to get a player to win the award.
     
  4. Michael Woodward

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    Yeah, this one might end up unanimous.
     
  5. makinpropel

    makinpropel Go Big Red!

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    Went with Bellamy and I don't even think it is close. He got the ball 100 times less, and still put up heisman-like numbers. Same amount of touchdowns, better YPC, and is a threat in special teams.
     
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  6. pnc

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    I went with Bellamy as well.

    on a side note how about doing offensive and defensive players of the year.

    My ROLB Jawara White lead the league with 54 solo tackles and had a total of 78 tackles and 9.5 sacks.
     
  7. Michael Woodward

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    He also coughed it up twice as many times in 100 less carries.
     
  8. Michael Woodward

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    Because its like the Heisman....There isn't a offensive and defensive heisman haha

    Do you think White's stats beat Cam's 19.5 sacks? Or my guy's 11 INTs, 4 TDs in 8 games? I'm not saying they don't, I was just curious as to what you think. You guy has stats in almost every category......they just aren't wowing like 19.5 sacks....And I played Cam's DT....He flattened my lineman within about 1.5 sec every play. And 11 INTs in 8 games is pretty incredible too. I believe he had two 4 INT games....Solo tackles are impressive but a tackle does not influence a game or momentum like a sack or INT. Your rebuttal sir!?
     
  9. makinpropel

    makinpropel Go Big Red!

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    LOL! Well in that case....

    25 TDS on 195 carries vs. 26 TDS on 294 carries.
    8.2 YPC vs. 7.4 YPC
    They have basically the same receiving stats
    Bellamy also has 2 returning touchdowns.
    They are tied with TDs, and Bellamy has significantly less touches.

    But the 2 more fumbles....
     
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  10. Abominatrix

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    As a side note, Kevin Parks had 1 KO return during the year, and it went for 88 yards and a TD >_>
    He was also out for 2.5 games :p

    That being said...still undecided. More bickering!
     
  11. pnc

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    I dont know that he would win it but he would deserve votes. I think a tackle is just as important as a sack or a interception. a sack or pick may change poessission but doesnt guarantee a score. missed tackles lead to touchdowns. Ive had 4 or 5 sacks and 2 picks in games that i have lost. if you cant tackle you will lose.
     
  12. Michael Woodward

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    Charles Woodson won the Heisman in 1997 with only 44 tackles but 8 INTs. His teammate, Sam Sword, had 91 tackles, 2 sacks, 1 INT in 11 games. He did not receive a single award for this.

    Yeah, you have to be able to tackle.....You wouldn't be playing football if you can't tackle. There are what, probably 800 tackles per season per team.....Maybe 15-20 INTs? Let's say you can tackle but not until the player has gotten 10 yards every time....He will eventually reach the end zone.....However, if you intercept the ball or sack the QB, you either deny him from scoring and give your team the chance to score or send him backwards.....If he is always going backwards, he is never going to score.
     
  13. Michael Woodward

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    True....It's still quite the task to top the 2000 yard plateau.....And I'm a bit biased because his RB bent my team over when we played. Although, I did look at the linemen ratings a second ago and a lot of that may be Cam's line. It is significantly better than Jared's. But then again, Cam's team did better than Jared's and won head-to-head. Also, you have to think about the fact that the more carries you have, the harder it will ultimately be to keep a high average. It is much closer than I thought though after you made your points.
     
  14. pnc

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    Yeah but im not talking about heisman trophy, im talking about defensive player of the year. My guy led the league in tackles, and not just user teams but computer teams as well. he also had 9.5 sacks, and 20 tackles for loss.
     
  15. Michael Woodward

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    Bronko Nagurski Award = Defensive Player of the Year

    2008 winner - Brian Orakpo 40 tackles, 11 sacks

    Same year - Aaron Curry 101 tackles, 63 solo, 2 sacks, 1 FF, 1 INT

    2009 winner - Ndamukong Suh 82 tackles, 47 solo, 12 sacks, 1 INT

    Same year - Rolando McClain 105 tackles, 53 solo, 4 sacks, 1 FF, 2 INTs

    2010 winner - Da'Quan Bowers 67 tackles, 41 solo, 15.5 sacks, 1 FF, 1 INT

    Same year - Sean Westgate 90 tackles, 68 solo, 11 TFL, 4 sacks, 1 FF
     
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    ive got one more game with him. if he can get a sack he will have over 10. All im saying is he would be in the running. Not only does he lead the league in tackles but hes a half sack away from double digit sacks. in 2008 if Curry had 10+ sacks to go with the 101 tackles he would have won, or at least been in the running.
     
  17. Michael Woodward

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    No you don't. The reason I do it after Week 15 is so everyone has the exact same amount of games to make an impression. It wouldn't be fair if you had 13 games and the other guy only had 12.

    Of course he'd be in the running...I'm not saying your guy shouldn't be considered at all. I'm just saying he shouldn't win and wouldn't in real life. Aaron Curry wouldn't have won with 10 sacks if Orakpo had 19.5 sacks and 30 more tackles (like Curry has over your guy).
     
  18. CamInMyMind1350

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    So basically if I would have sat Bennet out in the 4th quarter of most of my games, it would be a different story? Child please!
     
  19. steven.foster

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    I'm going with Bennett. Beast stats although Bellamy's are great with less carries I'm giving it to the 2000 yd rusher.
     
  20. Michael Woodward

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    Abominatrix
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    You guys are the deciding votes. Please only vote for either Bellamy or Bennett since no one else has a chance now and we will have a deciding vote with an odd number of people.
     
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    QBKILLAR has the keys to the city. He is the great decider.
     
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  22. makinpropel

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    Wait...
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    What?

    So Bennet is in during mop-up duty getting these stats? That really helps your case.

    That will help the ol' yardage count, when an all-american is getting touches during a blowout.

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    And Bennet still is only tied with Bellamy in TDs!
     
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    Cam... First of all, I believe keeping starters in while beating the piss out of a team could be un-sim. If not, it's still very unrealistic and very dumb to keep in your starters all game during mop up duty. Correct me if I'm wrong. Second of all, yes it does matter because if I wouldn't have taken Bellamy out in the 4th or even 3rd quarter on some occasions, Bellamy would easily have more yards, more touchdowns, on still LESS or equal carries as Bennett. Here is how I figured that for you Ozzie.

    Look up at the stats up above. Yes, Bellamy one less touchdown. 99 less carries. So, let's say I keep Bellamy in the whole game like your "run up score during mop-up duty style. Against Duke I pulled him in the 4th, against auto-piloted Mississippi state I pulled him in the 4th, against Wake Forest I pulled him in the 3rd, against Maryland I pulled him in the 3rd, and against South Carolina I pulled him in the 4th. Also, against Virginia Tech, Bellamy got hurt on the first drive for the game. He could have gotten 150 yards or more that game, but instead he got 10 or something like that. So take 150+ yards plus all the yards he could've had in the 3rd and 4th quarters, and Bellamy has maybe a few more carries, easily more yards, definitely more touchdowns, still more yards per carry, obviously more receiving yards/touchdowns.

    And to add to that, Bellamy had 1 KR TD and 1 PR TD. He always got the ball out to at least the 30 yard line on KR, he was a force on special teams. He's overall the better player
     
  24. Michael Woodward

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    True but its not about what ifs and would haves.....its about what did happen.
     
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    I really could care less How someone earns their stats.
     

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