3 Team Trade

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  1. capp34

    capp34 Say Hello to the Bad Guy!

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    Lions Get:
    RB M. Turner 91ovr 30yrs A pot (from ATL)
    WR S. Davis 81ovr 23yrs B pot (from ATL)
    CB C. Owens 78ovr 27yrs B pot (from ATL)

    Falcons get:
    RB J. Best 91ovr 24yrs A pot (from DET)
    LB G. Guyton 77ovr 27yrs B pot(from NE)

    Pats get:
    DE C. Avril 82ovr 26yrs B pot (from DET)

    @Capparelli
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  2. yankeery25

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    To get this approved, I would make a list of players each team is sending also, or write (from Pats) afetr their name
     
  3. antcap24

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    I am ok with this.
     
  4. ChickenOfTheSea

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    @warren123
    @Capparelli
    @capp34 Ok, you guys are terrible at tagging :)

    its the @ no space and then the username. like you see it displayed.
    Im @Seachicken3
    Rush is @rushers24 I dont want his 24 :)

    On to the trade, I don't see why a 3 way unless you guys think this will only count as 1 trade. For me I'm looking at each teams give and get, here is what I see:

    Trade 1,
    Atlanta sends:
    RB M. Turner 91ovr 30yrs A pot (from ATL)
    WR S. Davis 81ovr 23yrs B pot (from ATL)
    CB C. Owens 78ovr 27yrs B pot (from ATL)

    Detroit sends:
    RB J. Best 91ovr 24yrs A pot (from DET)
    DE C. Avril 82ovr 26yrs B pot (from DET)


    Trade 2,
    Atlanta sends:
    DE C. Avril 82ovr 26yrs B pot (from DET)


    NE sends:
    LB G. Guyton 77ovr 27yrs B pot(from NE)

    So 2 trades for Hotlanta, and 1 each for Det and NE.


    When I look at it that way its unbalanced, Hotlanta is giving up too much. Turner <> Best. That means WR Davis 81 and CB Owens 78 for DE Avril 82. that's the broken part for me. (I realize its not that simple ut its basically a 3-for-1 trade from Atlanta for Best.

    Unless I get some real convincing its a NO for me.
    @Keller, We have never addressed 3 way deals. Would we even allow this?
     
  5. antcap24

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    The reasoning on the 3 way trade is this...

    He wants to get rid of both Best and Avril. I do not need a DE as a priority need, but I need a LB that can play in a 3-4 system. I do not want to take Avril on with the trade unless I have a trade suitor available. I fill my LB need with Guyton, and also give the Patriots a slightly better plpayer in Avril at a position of need.

    Now as far as the Turner for Best. On paper both A potential 91 overall. Obviously Turner is older so capp34 wanted to be compensated with another player. I threw in Owens to give the compensation. Should he give me a lesser player in return to even up the trade?

    As far as counting it as 1 or 2 trades is irrelevant to me. It was more of a make sure I dont get stuck with the player thing.

    @Seachicken3
    @Keller
     
  6. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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    This is really complex, I'll have to look after I get home. Off the top of my head though, I'm with Chicken. I'm thinking I'm leaning towards no - maybe its just because its too complicated though.

    Maybe you guys could try to simplify things for us :)
     
  7. capp34

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    Yea the extra player is because of the age difference between Best and Turner, Best will still progress after this season while Turner more then likely will begin to regress so I wanted to be compensated for that.
     
  8. antcap24

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    Simpified version:

    This is a breakdown of how each team's trade would look individually.

    Atlanta gives up:
    RB M. Turner 91ovr 30yrs A pot
    WR S. Davis 81ovr 23yrs B pot
    CB C. Owens 78ovr 27yrs B pot

    Atlanta get:
    RB J. Best 91ovr 24yrs A pot (from DET)
    LB G. Guyton 77ovr 27yrs B pot(from NE)
    ----------------------------------------------------
    Detroit gives up:
    RB J. Best 91ovr 24yrs A pot
    DE C. Avril 82ovr 26yrs B pot

    Detriot gets:
    RB M. Turner 91ovr 30yrs A pot (from ATL)
    WR S. Davis 81ovr 23yrs B pot (from ATL)
    CB C. Owens 78ovr 27yrs B pot (from ATL)
    ----------------------------------------------------
    NE gives up:
    LB G. Guyton 77ovr 27yrs B pot

    NE gets:
    DE C. Avril 82ovr 26yrs B pot (from DET)

    If I understand seachicken correctly, he feels that Detriot is getting the better of Atlanta right now with the addition of the 3rd player.
    If Detriot was to compensate another player that was of lesser value it would even up the trade.

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  9. antcap24

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    FYI I assume the the Patriots are not run by warren123 because he is not on the owners list or xbox console.

    So i think this is a CPU trade?
     
  10. Keller

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    He joined and immediately went ghost mode so he is kicked until further notice. Consider it a CPU trade.
     
  11. ChickenOfTheSea

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    @capp34 Ok, But 78 points worth of compensation??????????? End of the day you are taking 3 players for 1. and Turner is 30, not 33, you will get an easy 2-3 seasons out of him. THis one is hard for me. I'm not even sure why NE is in teh deal. Why not work out the Best for Turner deal first, then address moving Avril somewhere. Dont take this as critical, just trying to make it all make sense.
     
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    I actually ask him for a lower player but he wanted to add him in the deal so I took it. I have been trying to move Best and Avril for the last week and the Pats are the only team willing to take him. The reason we cant do the Turner/Best deal first is because the Falcons only want Best and no one else off my team. I would be willing to take a lesser player if it makes the deal work.
    @Seachicken3
     
  13. antcap24

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    I will take Best and lesser player for Turner and Owens if that suits your needs.
     
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    Then work on anohter trade to address my Lb needs.
     
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    @capp34 @Capparelli @Keller Good stuff. I'll be honest this may not get a green light before the draft, are you guys Ok with that? Since its so complicated.


    EDIT: just saw the latest from Capparelli, move in that direction it makes a lot more sense)
     
  16. antcap24

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    I would like to get something worked out before the draft so we can draft accordingly.

    Turner 91 for Best 91.
    Owens 78 for Whomever that less and fits your needs to drop.

    To be honest, Owens is dead to me. He F@##$% up so much in the Falcons-Packers playoff game in real life it turns my stomach to look at him in this game. He is no longer on my roster in my mind. So if he can be an upgrade to you in a position of need, I will take a lesser player of value in return to make this happen.
     
  17. antcap24

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    @Keller @Seachicken3 @capp34

    Lions and Falcons agree to a more simple deal...

    Turner RB 91 A pot
    Davis WR 81 B pot
    Owens CB 78 B pot

    for

    Best 91 RB A pot
    Avril 82 DE B pot
    Williams WR 72 B pot
     
  18. antcap24

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    I take the hit in the thrid player due to the age of the two Running backs.
     
  19. capp34

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    Agreed.
     
  20. ChickenOfTheSea

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    sweet thanks for getting back to us before the draft
     
  22. Keller

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    Approved. Nice job simplifying but thanks for fucking up my life and making me do more spreadsheet work, lol.

    Please make sure the both of you update your roster management threads.
    This makes all 3 trades for the Lions this season.

    Closing thread.
     
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