All-America Logo?

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  1. JHeb

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    All-America Logo?

    Does anyone have an All-America type logo that could be used for my blog? I've googled just about every term I can think of and can't find any useful stuff...Help?
     
  2. JHeb

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    Well, I ended up finding a couple that I can use...See the blog for what I found.
     
  3. jmillhimes

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    Whoot, that's even better! Thanks JMill...
     
  5. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    Get rid of that damned EA Sports (which I could easily do, but I'm too lazy) and I might've used that. I just went with an NCAA logo.
     
  6. wildcatter78

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    JHeb, check out the 1st team Big 12 TE!!!
     
  7. JHeb

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    Post what you have Jello...I kind of like the EA in it since this is an EA game.
     
  8. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    I just read JHeb's blog on the TEs and I think that EA got it right here. Nebraska's guy had more TDs (by only 1, but still) and almost as many yards (200 fewer) but in a lot fewer catches (a little more than half). I think that JHeb's argument was that his guy having twice as many catches helped make his guy better, but I really disagree with that. To come up with almost as many yards and more TDs in half as many catches is much more impressive in my book. Looking at averages:

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 Column 6
    Team Rec Yards TD Yards/rec rec/TD
    OU 100 1095 6 10.9 16.7
    NEB 59 897 7 15.2 8.4


    JHeb--

    Are you saying your guy should be #1 because you're not objective, or even if he weren't your guy would you argue that yours is #1? In my eyes, I'd pick the guy with 15 yards per catch and a TD every 8 receptions over the guy with only 11 yards per catch and a TD every 17 receptions every day of the week and twice on Sunday.
     
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    From playing OU, I can say Reese was unstoppable! He catches everything thrown his way. Doubles teams didn't matter. He is one of those guys that you know they are going to but you still can't stop it.
     
  10. JHeb

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    Reese was basically a first down 100 times while McNeill was first down plus five 59 times...
     
  11. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    So, you're saying that because a team goes to 1 guy a lot, that makes him better? So for the following fictional scenario, you still think that the 100 small catches is better than the 60 big catches?

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 Column 6
    Team pos rec/car yards avg TD
    Team 1
     
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    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    So, you're saying that because a team goes to 1 guy a lot, that makes him better? I just can't follow that logic. If team A spreads the ball around (through rushing and using multiple receivers) while another team relies on another guy more I don't see how that alone makes him better. I still stand by my argument that a guy who catches the ball for more yards per pop (and much more frequent TDs) when the team does go to him is better than a guy can't get as many yards per catch and needs twice as many catches to get TDs.

    This doesn't hold for only receivers either. Take, for example, my HB (who was my number 3 guy to start and only started about half of the season) vs. LSU's top HB.

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 Column 6
    TEAM ATT YARDS TD YPC ATT/TD
    LSU 275 1184 24 4.3 11.5
    UofM 140 890 14 6.3 10.0


    So would you look at his guy's 1200 yards and 24 TDs and say that he had a better year than my guy who only had 900 yards and 14 TDs? I would say that my guy had a much better year since it took him 1 fewer carry in between TDs and he got 50% more yards per carry. If you look at our teams, our rushing numbers look like this:
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    TEAM YARDS TDs
    UofM 2732(#3) 40(#1)
    LSU 1769(#22) 36(#2)


    So as a team, I had more rushing TDs and 1000 more rushing yards than LSU, so why does his guy have more yards and way more TDs than my top guy? Because his #s 2 and 3 guys had 419 and 93 yards while my #s 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 guys had 446, 427, 348, 203, 156, and 96 yards. Also, the other guys on his team had 7, 3, 1, and 1 TDs while my team outside of my top guy had 7, 6, 3, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1, and 1 TDs.

    Would you argue that LSU's back's total numbers equates to him having a better year than my back even though I obviously spread my carries around?

    I'm also curious what the others have to say about this. Which TE would you say had the better year, the guy with 100 catches, 1100 yards, and 6 TDs, or the guy 60 catches, 900 yards, and 7 TDs? Do you prefer the guy who accounted for 100 1st downs or the guy who "only" had 59* 15 yards plays?
     
  13. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    So, you're saying that because a team goes to 1 guy a lot, that makes him better? I just can't follow that logic. If team A spreads the ball around (through rushing and using multiple receivers) while another team relies on another guy more I don't see how that alone makes him better. I still stand by my argument that a guy who catches the ball for more yards per pop (and much more frequent TDs) when the team does go to him is better than a guy can't get as many yards per catch and needs twice as many catches to get TDs.

    This doesn't hold for only receivers either. Take, for example, my HB (who was my number 3 guy to start and only started about half of the season) vs. LSU's top HB.

    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3 Column 4 Column 5 Column 6
    TEAM ATT YARDS TD YPC ATT/TD
    LSU 275 1184 24 4.3 11.5
    UofM 140 890 14 6.3 10.0


    So would you look at his guy's 1200 yards and 24 TDs and say that he had a better year than my guy who only had 900 yards and 14 TDs? I would say that my guy had a much better year since it took him 1 fewer carry in between TDs and he got 50% more yards per carry. If you look at our teams, our rushing numbers look like this:
    Column 1 Column 2 Column 3
    TEAM YARDS TDs
    UofM 2732(#3) 40(#1)
    LSU 1769(#22) 36(#2)


    So as a team, I had more rushing TDs and 1000 more rushing yards than LSU, so why does his guy have more yards and way more TDs than my top guy? Because his #s 2 and 3 guys had 419 and 93 yards while my #s 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, 7 guys had 446, 427, 348, 203, 156, and 96 yards. Also, the other guys on his team had 7, 3, 1, and 1 TDs while my team outside of my top guy had 7, 6, 3, 3, 2, 2, 1, 1, and 1 TDs.

    Would you argue that LSU's back's total numbers equates to him having a better year than my back even though I obviously spread my carries around?

    I'm also curious what the others have to say about this. Which TE would you say had the better year, the guy with 100 catches, 1100 yards, and 6 TDs, or the guy 60 catches, 900 yards, and 7 TDs? Do you prefer the guy who accounted for 100 1st downs or the guy who "only" had 59* 15 yards plays?
     
  14. wildcatter78

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    Only one of them is wearing a Big 12 Championship Ring!!!
     
  15. JHeb

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    I would expect nothing less from Jello...

    BTW, I'd say the LSU running back had the better year...He was used more, he produced more. I know your arguement, it comes down to different systems, etc. You spread it around more while LSU relied more on a one back attack, etc. Same for the OU/NEB arguement over TE's. I throw the ball more than NEB, my guys will have more catches. Reese isn't my leading receiver but he's second on my team. He does have the most catches. Why? Becuase he's good at catching the ball, despite double teams, etc. He's hella valuable.

    All this coming from a guy who says "Boomer" and "Sooner" don't rhyme...Ha.
     
  16. jello1717

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    Where is everyone else?

    I'm curious if others think that a guy who can only get 4 yards per carry, but is used a ton is better than a guy who manages 6 yards per carry, but has fewer carries because the QB, WR, and backup HBs get carries too.
     

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