Dugout History: C

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  1. ty5oke

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    Disclaimer: Stats as of 8/2031
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    # on top = Total WAR
    # on bottom = WAR/Season

    -- Only 32 C All-Time in Dugout have totaled 10+ WAR
    -- Only 16 have averaged more than 2 WAR over a season
    -- Battle between Garcia/Warren continues as they are the only 5+ WAR/Season

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    Overall Stats above but let's take a look at the top 5 in depth...

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    #5 All-Time C Wayne Barnes
    -- Drafted #6 overall on 2019 by San Diego Padre
    -- Traded to the O's in a deal for SP Jake Odorizzi
    -- 6x All Star 1x Gold Golve 2x WS Champ
    -- #1 in HR in 2029 (49)
    -- #1 in R in 2024 (119)
    -- 300th career HR on 9/27/29
    -- Career High WAR: 6.0

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    #4 All-Time C Kyle Skipworth
    -- Drafted #6 overall in 2008 by Florida Marlins
    -- Traded to Minnesota in 2015 for SP Liam Hendricks
    -- 9 years in MIN before spending his last 5 in STL
    -- 4x All Star 3x Gold Glove
    -- 300th HR (8/1/26) 1000th RBI (5/13/27) 100th R (9/15/28)
    -- Career High WAR: 6.6​

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    -- Drafted #5 overall in 2008 by SF
    -- All 17 years in San Fran taking in ~220M over his career
    -- 6x All Star 6x Gold Glove
    -- 1000th RBI (6/16/24) 1000th R (6/27/24) 2000th H (6/17/25)
    -- Career High WAR: 4.9

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    #2 All-Time C Patrick Tolentino
    -- Undrafted out of Nebraska by CLE
    -- Traded to ARZ in 2014 in a deal that included Nelson Cruz and Cahill
    -- Traded to PHI for Roberto Perez in 2020
    -- Has pocketed about 225M during his career
    -- 5x All Star 2x Gold Glove 1x WS Winner
    -- 1000th R (8/22/30) 1000th RBI (8/18/31)
    -- Career High WAR: 6.2

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    #1 All-Time C Jose Garcia
    -- Drafted 51st overall by NYM in 2020
    -- Has taken in about 150M in salary
    -- 6x All Star 2x NL MVP
    -- 4x Batting Champ 3x wOBA Leader 3x WAR Leader
    -- IRON MAN (Injured once in career, food poisoning for 2 days)
    -- Career High WAR: 8.8​


    GRAPH BELOW shows how far C's have reached by top draft picks.
    Top # = Year
    Bottom # = Total WAR


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    For viewing all graphs and able to sort/filter to your pleasure check them out here:

    Full Stats for C's:
    https://public.tableausoftware.com/views/DugoutCatchers/Top5CStats?:embed=y&:display_count=no

    C's drafted in first 3 rounds: https://public.tableausoftware.com/views/DugoutCatchers/DraftC?:embed=y&:display_count=no
     
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  2. NeuroticTruth

    NeuroticTruth dont know , dont care

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    Excellent stuff. Just as an FYI, Chet Anderson was taken drafted in 2015 #2 in the 1st round Supplemental not #2 OVR.
     
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  3. ty5oke

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    My best C - Ed Williams.

    He put together 3 or 4 great seasons before dying due to knee issues. Haven't had much luck with catchers since.
     
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    NeuroticTruth dont know , dont care

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    My best was Barnes, he was great until I traded him. Now he can diaf for all I care.
     
  5. Roggie

    Roggie Back 2 Back

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    My best - None, unless Rafael Figuoera counts from the Japan days for me.

    Flamethrower has been a huge bust.
     
  6. Confucius Rex

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    Beau Taylor's where it's at. Served the A's well.
     
  7. I Peench

    I Peench Caught in the hustle

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    Thought Annable was destined for stardom, or the other 2 great catching specs that had career enders.

    Here's to hoping Valdes keeps it up (knock on wood)
     
  8. abolishthefed

    abolishthefed Specializing in mediocrity

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    I was spoiled the first 10 seasons with Posey. He was great behind the plate and could hit well. Unfortunately, catchers go downhill quickly after age 34. I kept him on the team for his leadership skills late in his career and it lowered his WAR. He was released 2 seasons before SF won the world series.
     
  9. Timpegoose

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    I've had a lot of high potential catching specs fall flat on their face, luckily both of them were after their time in Atlanta. Jorge Zapata and Omar Estrada both looked to be solid players before going to I Peench and sonn until one suffered a CEI and the other just never finished developing. Other than McCann (who was default) and Uluc I haven't had much luck at the catcher position
     
  10. Drifterbub

    Drifterbub Help me hide a body?

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    Can't say enough about Garcia. A big reason why we have even had marginal success in the last 5-6 years.

    What's sad is I had both Jose Garcia and Adrian Warren in my system. Dealt Warren for Eden Martinez, which worked out. But I probably could have afforded to let him DH or play 1B for me and then traded him for gold.
     
  11. ty5oke

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    Wow, I didn't know you had Warren.
     
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    He sucked
     

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