Here are the list of teams in both Serie A/B/C and what their current star rating is: Serie A: FC Schalke 04 - 4 stars Hamburger SV - 4 stars Newcastle - 4 stars Birmingham City - 3.5 stars Everton - 4 stars Fulham - 4.5 stars Athletic Club - 4 stars LOSC Lille - 4.5 stars CSKA Moscow - 4.5 stars VfL Wolfsburg - 4 star Sunderland - 4 stars Lazio - 4.5 stars Serie B: Besiktas - N/A West Ham - 3.5 stars Udinese - 4 stars Fiorentina - 4.5 stars Sampdoria - 3.5 stars Napoli - 4.5 stars Palermo - 4 stars Santos FC - 4 stars Spartak Moscow - 4 stars Werder Bremen - 4 stars Serie C: Bolton - 4 stars VfB Stuttgart - 4 stars The teams highlighted in red are the teams that got bumped up from 4 stars to 4.5 stars. The teams highlighted in blue are the teams that went down from 4 stars to 3.5 stars.
Any chance you could go through and list the available 4 star teams (other than the ones already occupied by an owner now)...that would be awesome
The star ratings make no sense to me. Everton is 4 stars with a 79/75/78 (att/mid/def) and Schalke is also 4 stars but with a 82/74/76 rating while Fulham is 4.5 stars with a 77/75/75 rating.
4 and 4.5 star teams are listed in the general discussion forum. didn't indicate which are which though
Here are a few ideas: - any 4 star team from the previous season that got bumped to 4.5 is still eligable to stay in the Serie leagues seeing as the specific ratings haven't really changed much. - any 4.5 star team is allowed if their average rating is 77 or below. to get the average rating, you add the ATT/MID/DEF rating and divide it by 3. Example Fulham: 77 ATT + 75 MID + 75 DEF = 75.6 average rating which means Fulham still qualifies - just simply stick with 4 star teams
I would suggest using the att/mid/def ratings instead of the star rating. Maybe no single stat higher than 79 or the average of all three no higher than 78 or something. As shiftee showed, the ratings and stars are not quite directly related. I'm sure that collectively we could come up with something good. I just feel that some of the four star teams are in a different league than the others and probably shouldn't be available whereas some of the 4.5 star teams might be more acceptable.
Here's my only issue with using the att/mid/def ratings: Changing the formation affects the rating. i.e. If you only have one forward your att rating is his overall. The other issue is that the default formation doesn't always have the best players in it. So if you have a 80 ovr guy on the bench, his rating isn't included
if the ratings idea won't work we have 2 options left: - allow the teams that were 4 stars last season and are 4.5 stars now to be eligible for the new season. - stick with 4 stars no matter what and force a redraft for those teams who got bumped up to 4.5 stars
Actually now that i think about it, i'm almost 100% positive it takes more than formation into consideration when displaying ratings. I used your example and looked for teams that use a 1 striker formation and the ATT rating didn't match that 1 striker in the starting 11 for any of the teams. maybe it takes the average of all "att" players, all "mid" players and all "def" players? i really don't know where they get the numbers from
Might be true...I could have sworn that I've seen it happen before, but maybe I'm just mis-remembering
Well either way I'm ok with whatever decision we end up going with. If we do go the route of making all the new 4.5 star teams pick new teams, how would that order be decided? Would I get to pick first as a reward for winning the league
I was pretty sure that was the case as well. Also, I don't think teams that jump up to 4.5* should be kept... imagine if someone had like a Man City and just stuck with them for a couple fifas. Sucks to lose your team, but it also sucks to be a 1/2 star below a handful of opponents and unable to ever catch up
I agree because man city is now a 5 star team and their ATT/MID/DEF are all above 80. but when you have 4.5 star teams with lower ATT/MID/DEF ratings than a few 4 star teams.. that's not right either.
I should be the first one to pick . My poor team did not even make it to the game . I had mind set to PSG, but it looks like they are 4.5 stars. I want to say , let`s do a redraft and work with strictly 4 star teams, but that might discourage some of us. my concern is; there are not enough likeable and decent teams in the game to be selected for Serie A , Serie B and Serie C . If we had only Serie A and B I would say there might be enough teams but adding Serie C will be not fair for some of us. We can allow Serie A players to pick 4 or 4.5 star teams. Serie B 4 stars and Serie C lower than 4. That might put a twist to the league , so lower league players would want to do better and pick a better team for the following season.
I would say you get to pick 2nd then you would have had to repick no matter what because of your team isn't in the game, whereas my team is and i'm not allowed to pick them. Plus I would hope winning the league last season counts for something in this matter But you are right I didn't even think about the addition of Serie C. I am not sure if there are enough 4 star teams to completely fill all 3 leagues. there very well may be. If there are enough then we just go with that I guess and if there isn't then we have to figure something out for sure.
You got the title of CHAMPION OF SERIE A, no matter what team you play with, you are still gonna be the best player in the league except TFL CUP . One thing I know , we should come to a decision pretty soon, since the game will be out in couple of games, and people would want to pick their teams and get used to the formations,style,player subs, specialized tactics, set pieces...... on and on... Who is going to be responsible for this? is it @RedAL925 or all of us come to an agreement? I don`t know how this works. Is there a list of the teams that in the FIFA12 in any blogs or websites which shows the ratings? I did not buy the online pass that is why I won`t be able to see what teams would be available to pick as if now.
Red, Broncos, Friz and myself will go over all the details soon and finalize everything. Also, once we all get the game we will look over the teams and their ratings and come to a decision that we feel will be the fairest thing for everyone involved. I will say one thing for certain: We are NOT handing the 1st overall pick in the draft to shiftee..FACK that Anyone who is "forced" to leave their team (at the moment people like myself, Red, BESHIKTAS, shiftee, etc) will be given priority in the draft, while anyone who is not forced to leave but chooses to do so will draft after all those people have picked teams. We will update you all once we have come to our decisions on everything. Don't worry, we want TFL Serie to be even better this year and we will do everything in our power to make sure that we set up everything in a way that is fair to everyone involved in our leagues.
Whatever decision is reached I'm sure I'll be ok with. I'd hate to have to leave Fulham (especially since they are worse than some four star teams), but a new club is a new experience and that could be a good thing.
