FIFA 14 Controls

Discussion in 'TFL: Tradition Fútbol League' started by niuhuskie224, Sep 1, 2024.

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What kind of league setup would you play in?

  1. Manual top league, semi for any lower leagues

    60.0%
  2. All Semi

    10.0%
  3. Any

    20.0%
  4. Will play in any league because I need FIFA in my life.

    40.0%
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  1. niuhuskie224
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    The discussion on controls has been very polarizing. As I have stated, my number one priority is to grow this league and make it one of the top destinations for online FIFA gaming. So how do I get everyone on board? How do I make sure this league continues to grow while not alienating anyone.

    I have decided I need some actual votes of what leagues people would play in.

    I have chosen 3 types of leagues.

    1) Top league manual, lower tiered leagues semi.

    2) All semi

    3) Any


    The first league is something that could get people to eventually make the switch. The problem would be newer players or non frequent players would play semi and make the jump to manual from one season to the next and the league they jump to would be full of manual players.

    The second league would keep everyone in line with one control scheme.

    The third is the most interesting in that it will tell a lot about why people play. Are those that are committed to Manual ok with losing to those that play Semi? We obviously would encourage players playing with a minimum of semi controls but there would be no real way to police this. Someone could play of auto controls. Does this offer an advantage? Perhaps. Does skill eventually outlast? No idea. But it could be a direction we go. Those that want manual get manual. Those that struggle and wish to ease into it, can. But ultimately, we have people playing different controls and that could be difficult for some to handle.

    So those are the options. This is what I need to know in order to get us started.
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    Things just got a little more scandalous. I like it! :woot:
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    Question:

    If there is a cup competition for the whole league (with inter-division matchups) how will the controls be decided if it's option A?

    Just something that randomly popped into my mind after voting for A.
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    Players play with their native controls.
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    If we end up playing with any, I really hope that people don't abuse cheese shots and etc against manual players. I voted for both 1st and 3rd options. I'm ok losing as long as people keep it respectable (not the score but the gameplay). I don't care if I lose 6-0 nothing, but don't make it feel like I'm playing some random guy in seasons with some-I-assisted controls that is out of control like he's at the arcade playing pacman soccer. Cos I don't have to go through scheduling hassles for that, I can just hope on the xbox and millions are ready to take me to that experience.

    And let's try not to hijack this thread as well :)
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    Can we like, not call it top and lower for manual semi? I really don't see it as being higher or lower for the control schema we enjoy. Does it require more skill for manual? Well yes, but manual shouldn't be the place described as "you are good enough for this division". If people like manual (or prefer or think they can pull it off, call it what you want) they play on that side of the playground, and others play on the others side (for the 1st option obviously). And then if there is cup of some sort that involves everyone, manual division should agree that they will play manual against semi. Manual shouldn't be seen as promotion or upgrade :)
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    What's the point in having pro/rel then?
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    If you can grab enough teams, have pro/rel within semi and manual, not from one to the other. If someone wins semi division and he likes semi (for whatever reason), forcing him to manual will drive him away (same with the guy that gets relegated from manual). Have 2 divisions of semi with pro/rel. I doubt there will be enough to have 2 divisions for manual.
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    Considering only 4-5 people have voted I am concerned if we have a league period.
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    So there's no point, is what you're saying. Each control preference has their own island, which would, in essence, make it separate leagues, not one.

    I retract my vote for A having now realized this. I say let guys use whatever they want as long as it's not fully auto.
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    I mean that's my guess. You never know what's really in niuhuskie224 's mind until he reveals it :D . What I said is what makes sense to me, so there is a very good possibility that what really will go on is no where close to that and closer to what you were saying. Like you get promoted to manual for winning semi demoted to semi for losing manual.

    And there is no retracting votes, it's too late. Your vote counts as is :p
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    Overall, I am frustrated. Everyone interest is all over. Maybe nobody really wants semi. Maybe we run one small manual league and waitlist everyone else at this point.
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    Wait till game releases and people buy it and then start looking for sites. Right now the only people checking this crap are those that play it more than others, if that. You'll get the mainstream crowd after release. Maybe you shouldn't rush and set a further league start so you can gauge interest after people are interested in FIFA again.
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    True. But I also don't want people to join our ranks, play 4 games and quit. We don't have a lot of options if someone quits.
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    Manual shots and thru balls IMO. Perfect set up, I would still leave manual passing on.
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    There's been 13 votes but only 8 or so guys have signed up...

    Personally, I agree that manual is the best control system for the game. However, I also realize that it has a very steep learning curve. Considering this, I believe that having the top division as manual and the rest as semi is the best of both worlds. As guys play more FIFA and get better, they start to get their toes wet in the world of manual FIFA. As far as cups, if there will be split divisions based on controls, we can have a semi and a manual cup, neither mandatory to join, but something where guys can see how the other half lives.

    Anyways, those are my $0.02 on this subject at the moment.
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    After a little more thought and discussion today, top division manual, everything else semi/manual seems (to me, at least) to be the right thing to do. I know that you would have to have controls set to any to allow guys to use either semi or manual in the same game, which opens up the door for fully auto to be used, but if there's a zero tolerance policy in regards to guys using auto, it shouldn't be a problem. It's not terribly hard, IMO, to know when a guy's using fully auto controls against you, so vigilance will be necessary as well.

    I guess I'm up for $0.04 now.
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    We cant assume those who are promoted want to play full manual. We need people right now, most important thing is the league. I agree, and my personal preference is full manual but my heart lies in whats best for the league. We have the custom leagues for a reason. We need a straight up league for the site. I say we revert back to 10-11 and do semi with manual through balls. If goal scoring is off the charts then we need to change shooting to manual. In my opinion, this is the best course of action.
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    If guys want to keep playing on semi, they can stay in the semi division, that's not terribly difficult.
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    So you're saying that guys shouLd throw games to play they want to play? That doesn't work, your vision is what you want to see...
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    No, I'm saying if a guy wins promotion and doesn't feel comfortable playing manual, he should have the option to stay in the semi division, and the next highest-placed guy that wants to play manual can move up in his stead.

    Throwing games? Really?
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    Than what's the point of winning?
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    It's an option. Some people actually play the games because they enjoy the competition, the sport, and/or the people they are playing against. It's not all about winning and losing.
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    There should be different divisions for everything and no relegation promotion relationship between them. Manuals, Semis, Winners (the people that take too much pride in losing games) and Losers (the winners that don't give a shit about winning). Each division can have their tier 1 and tier 2 that will provide a structure for relegation and promotion. If we want to target 10 team divisions, we just need to find 80 people give or take with the right specs, and then TFL will be towards an unstoppable growth from there.
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    This would work if we had 50 guys to give options to.
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