If this stops pace whores bombing the wings and through-lobbing to death, I'll consider it worth the price of the new version. Build up play should be everything in this game, with the occasional quick break counterattack. You shouldn't be facing 5, 6, 7 quick counters with 90+ speed forwards bombing down the wings per match. I can't wait to see a No. 9 hold up play just outside the box, lay it off to an oncoming midfielder who can bomb it in from distance. Trying to manufacture that type of goal in 13 is like contorting your fingers into origami.
Eh I disagree, the scenario you mentioned is possible. Rare. But possible. A lot harder (by that I mean 10 times harder) than outpacing your opponent. People like easy and cheap. Again do-able. Just not in your Seasons matches, Manual is a lot easier to hold the ball and wait for a winger or inside mid to come and take the shot.
Anyone getting the early release today? I've been up early and working so most likely I'll be calling it a day by 1PM which is the release time and start playing. I don't have the ticket yet but I'm very tempted since I'll at least have all afternoon for this.
Wow, I didn't realize FIFA was a midnight release worthy game. I was able to pick up my copy a few minutes ago from Gamestop. Ofcourse it wouldn't have been if I didn't have Early Release and I was dying for the release. I just got it cos it's more convenient to pick it up now than during day time.
I got it at midnight and after playing several games online, I absolutely hate it. Maybe it takes getting used to and hopefully I have the patience to get to that point. It seems like everything is so labored. Every turn takes 9 hours to complete, every stop takes forever, every touch seems to be terrible, especially when it's most important, it seems like there is absolutely no time and with the slow turns, by the time my player receives the ball and I'm trying to turn away from a defender, it takes too long and it's stolen. Also extremely frustrated with the jersey pulling. I would have a 90+ speed guy out of reach and a slower guy would catch up just enough to reach his arm completely out and grab my guy and pull him back and take the ball. I know some jersey pulling when the players are close and you can't see it can be gotten away with but you will never get away with your arm completely outstretched pulling a guy back. I had one of my players get out ahead of everyone, then near the box, their player reaches out and starts tugging before pushing my guy over forward just as I'm about to shoot the 1v1 shot and no foul was given. It wasn't even close to a dive. They also haven't fixed the GK AI when you bring him out. What I mean is if you bring the goalie out for a through ball and no one is near him, he will clear it out of bounds or to the other team. If you bring him out and there is an opposing player racing toward the ball, he will try to control and dribble it, leaving you severely screwed (and I had a goal scored on me from that). I don't know. Just doesn't feel realistic at all and too much bullshit seems to happen. Again, hopefully I'll get used to it but right now, I hate it. Six games and I couldn't get a single goal because every time I got near goal, a random terrible touch, guy pulling me back, or a slow-mo turn would screw everything up. Also, full assist is still completely stupid and cheap.
Was thinking it took forever to turn in the early release.. Thought it was just me though... Glad I am not the only one. Not feeling the game this year.
Michael Woodward From what I've played in the ER, you HAVE to ease off the accelerator and pick your spots to explode past defenders or else you will always find yourself without control. The game is less about speed and more about precision in almost every aspect. The random touches mostly come from trying to dribble through tight windows at top speed with pinpoint turns that defy gravity (on both offense but especially defense) which you could do at will on previous iterations. What you are witnessing is FIFA actually attempting to give their players weight and momentum. Deft touches are much more effective than just trying to blaze past everyone, just like in real life. Slow down and pick your spots as you would on the pitch and you will be fine. I can't say anything about assisted because, yes it is still complete BS to play against. I think I played a couple of guys who were probably on semi that didn't seem to bad. I haven't tried it myself yet. Love the play on manual right now. Edit: Another thing. The turns are quick with the players who are supposed to have that agility and ball control. I promise you, I've played with Schalke a bit and Farfan is a beast with his turns on the ball, but if I try the same with Huntelaar he gets it taken EVERY time.
Precisely! MUCH more of the game is about thinking one touch/one pass/one turn ahead. But the thing is you (especially on manual) you have to actually have to nail the movement on the controller. If you don't, you will lose the ball. If you try to dribble through a crowd with most players, you will lose the ball. If you try to kick and run vs. a skilled defender, you will lose the ball. I love what they've done with the turbo button---much more of the game is now about using the football well vs. overcoming defenses with physical skills.
Another thing about using the flanks. When you DO try to beat a defender for pace down the touchline, you need to "turn the corner" on the defender if that makes sense. So when you have a step on him, instead of continuing to try to blast down the line, turn the corner and make your angle towards the goal. This will put your body in between the defender and the ball. If you are able to do this, the defender will be riding your back with no real way to tackle you beside fouling. If you just continue to run down the line with a defender in your hip pocket, he will be able to wedge in and make a challenge. Definitely more realistic. Try it.
Loving what I'm reading.. Especially coming from you two whose opinions I respect greatly. Sadly won't be picking up the game on release day for like the first time ever but I'll get it the first chance I get. Looking forward to getting some games in with you two and the rest of the manual guys.
I, too, picked up the midnight release and played for about 2 hours before that 5:30 wakeup loomed too large. And unlike some others, I love what they've done - granted, I didn't jump in and play any head-to-head matches against live opponents, just against AI on World Class. But playing with my usual squad (VFB Stuttgart), I learned after about 5 or 6 minutes that touch and control is everything - you can only sprint with the ball when you have TONS of space or a really good dribbler (of which Stuttgart has two). Michael Woodward - I found the only way to utilize speed to evade defenders when you've gotten past them is to tap the ball ahead (R2/RB and right stick) while sprinting so the ball isn't at your feet. You lose speed while dribbling, even with pacey guys, but if you kick it ahead and chase after, your speed really comes into play. Granted you have much less control, but that, too, is much more realistic. Passing and moving is key, as is weight shifting. Unlike previous FIFAs, defenders don't automatically mirror your every move - if you're moving to your right and suddenly shift to your left, it takes a second for the defender to shift his weight to match it. Depending on who's on the ball - his dribbling, agility and speed skills - you can gain that extra yard of space for a pass or a shot. I was able to bury 4 against Eintracht Frankfurt (again, the AI and not a real user), and none came from crosses (not that I didn't try). I'll give seasons/head-to-head against live opposition a go tonight, particularly when more TFS guys have the game and we can all try it out together on like-like settings, rather than facing off against Assisted-using Barca-boys.
My ER impression was more about spacing you have to be spaced out especially when defending and speed kills your spacing. I noticed the CPU would make some outstanding runs when I double teamed the ball. I was blown away by the AI of a good team like Bayern or Barca compared to a Real Betis, Hannover (not that they aren't good) I played on WC no slider adjustments and felt that speed (Rtrigger) became a problem as it put me at a disadvantage. I learned this game as a button masher SLAM THAT TRIGGER SPEED BY THEM and in 13 I tried to tone that down a bit ,14 has made me rethink that whole process. I try not to use the trigger at all as it puts me off balance on D or in the defenders path too quickly to make a pass or move. I love this game, FIFA 14 A+++++
Oh and this was certainly not fixed. Everyone I played was lobbing it over the top to fast guys and most times the defender would react slowly and it'd get very interesting.
That's the thing though, I don't mash RT. I don't press it at all unless I have space to run into. I'd have the ball passed to Cazorla or Ozil, two players who should have no problem turning, and I'd hold one direction or the other to turn from a defender who was coming at me (no sprint button) and they'd take a first touch, then slowly try to turn and it'd be taken over and over. They would rarely try to turn with the first touch and when they did, it was still super slow. And as far as turning inside down the wing as Blaza said, I did do that and as I got onto the edge of the box, 1v1, the defender shoves me to the ground from behind and no foul is given. Other times, I'm running away from center backs with 90+ speed guys and here comes inspector gadget arm to yank them off the ball in half a second. I always think a move ahead but it would always be messed up by someone's touch or slow movement and again, a lot of times it was Ozil who is an 89 overall and should have perfect touch.
And yes, I tapped it ahead haha I'm not a noob at Fifa. I would tap it ahead down the line and go and people would somehow reach me from behind with slower guys and completely yank me away or I'd press cross before getting to the ball and he'd take an additional small touch before doing that and knock it out of bounds or something stupid
Michael Woodward Play a few more games. I've had the game since Friday so I've played 30 games or more so far. I'm having no problems with the touch or outpacing a defender. In fact, acceleration in tight spaces has been one of the things I've loved so far. I've been able to leave defenders for dead with players like Wilshere, Ozil, Cazorla, players who aren't 'fast' but have great first steps. With first touch, unless you have acres of space, you need to touch the ball away from defenders and make sure your body is in between the marker in the ball.
