FIFA 14...Who wants a mustache ride?!?!?!

I hate AJ as much as the next guy ;-)

I would argue on this (and by at all means I would mean zero disrespect in the same way you do), but there really isn't enough manual interest to make it worth even getting my hands dirty again. I think the manual guys that want to play manual shouldn't complain about the site going semi, but should get together and grow together to show that manual can be priority over semi to earn that respect. If we had two divisions, one manual and one semi, I bet there'll be 3-4 times more interest on the semi. And manual guys, don't get upset at me, it's just the fact I see here and other places I've been to.

He has the mindset, but only to grow it in the direction to make it full of converts from NCAA to soccer to NCAA crowd, which I'm not saying is wrong or shouldn't be done. But that's not what some of us are looking forward to see for FIFA. And yes, before anyone says it, we always have the option to not participate, go the f away, if that's how some want to approach it.

Hell, I wasn't around for one day when it was all manual last year so you know where I stand I wish I was still able to handle the responsibility of heading up (or participating) in this type of league but I just can't. I know how much hard work it takes to run FIFA leagues around here so I'm grateful we have guy's that take their own free time to do so because I love the game and more importantly I love the sport and the more people that play the game will eventually get interested in the sport and soon they will realize there is no better time than 9AM on a Saturday morning For the hardcore guy's and I know there are a ton here (I'm looking at TFL Serie), try out manual and give it a fair shot and I guarantee soon after you start, you'll be hooked. Looking forward to bringing my manual French ass to the world cup launch tourny though.. I do get the French, right Randiesel75

I think you need to take a step back, no one wants to drive traffic away from TSO. While I trust your opinion and think you're a good dude, I think you are a bit close minded at times, much like myself. If there are others, including yourself, who have the time required to manage a manual league, by all means, TSO will support you 100%.

If you build it they will come? Yes, I think this speaks for both the majority and minority when it comes to soccer. After all, the sport is rather large considering the fanbase, worldwide. There is no reason to think it should be categorized the same as American football (NCAA & Madden) ?

Still bitching about the damn boots?? Get over it dude

Them are some fighting words right there.. I hope Mike Wallace signs with Miami and Le'Veon Bell get's hurt or something

This was the direction we all knew it was going last year. Just like it was predicted that the TFL would move to an American playoff system.

And for the record, to point out the fact that I haven't been in the league for MONTHS, when ive been playing in the TFL for YEARS is real bush league sir. Especially, since you know specifically why I resigned.

Im done with it.

While I understand the argument that manual is closest to sim FIFA, I don't understand the elitist attitude that comes with it. If semi controls are somehow beneath you, fine...no one is forcing you to play. Your control setting doesn't make you any more or less diehard than anyone else.

TFSerie has toyed with the idea of a switch to manual, multiple times in fact...but the cons outweigh the pros. Fact is, semi gives the league it's best chance to survive and grow. On semi, assisted players are more willing to give it a go without being overwhelmed by full manual controls. Manual alienates new guys, making the task of finding replacements more difficult (especially here, where pigskin rules) and therefore weakening the league.

The PS3 side is rooting for you guys to get back to the glory days, as it will benefit everyone here.

The move to an American playoff was for one season only to see if it actually kept anyone interested (it didn't) and when I talk about guys not playing for months I know why you haven't and I am not talking about you. I am talking about the number if people last year who said manual is a must and then stopped playing.

So I ask you not to look at that comment as being directed at you. I do how ask that you look at who player seasons 2 and 3 last year. And look at the number of guys who pushed for manual and tell me where they are. If 20
Guys want to play manual and will commit to the TFL for more than a season then by all means we can go back to manual.

But as the TFL stand I have too many guys that want to play but are a little more casual and then they play manual and say F it.

The only happy medium I can think of is moving to any and allowing noobs to play semi and the pros to play manual and evaluate who is going to play what each season. Tougher to police but an option.

Would the manual guys that have to have it play here even if the newer guys or the lower skilled guys played semi while they played manual? I don't know but I am willing to try anything to improve and grow the TFL. Remember, my goal as commissioner is the greater good of the league and I will try things and take risk so that we finish releases with more that 9 guys.

Elitist because I don't enjoying people ping pong their way down the pitch or play the game in a way that looks nothing like the sport? Ill be that. Hell, I can just continue to play FIFA seasons to get that.

Elitist is also a commish that goes on about inclusiveness, then says, "No one is forcing you to play here." Dude, I just said I will play manual friendlies and PES. The funny thing is that hedache just said someone was going to pull that card.

Like I said, I'm done. You won't hear another peep from me. Ill continue to creep around this forum and wish you all luck.

Dude the guy is in a tough place. He's not going to please everyone. In you're posts you are coming off as a real prick with comments like this league isn't the same now that Rich isn't running it, semi no thanks, etc etc.

It's tough to run a league, it takes a crapload of time, Rich couldn't do it anymore, Huskie stepped up to do it. The guy is getting a lot of shit from some of the older guys that really isn't warranted. If you don't agree with the direction take your ball and go home. Like you said you were going to do. Stop with the bashing. Again, he's putting in a ton of time to try to grow the league.

Think of it this way, the more casual FIFA guys that come over, the more that possibly will convert to a more difficult (manual) style of play which hopefully will grow the manual playing pool. For the record I play all manual as well.

All I am saying is there is a more constructive way to voice your displeasure for something than they way you're coming across in your posts.

I really don't see the point if this post. It's done dude, why are you intentionally trying to stoke the fire?

I think everyone can agree that the game plays better on manual. Weird stuff happens on semi.

1) Let newbs play on semi.

2) Teach people how to play on manual.

3) Move them to manual.

4) Watch league grow.


Are there really people here that REFUSE to learn to play on manual? To me, it's the same step-change that takes place when players learn how to play on 'Heisman' difficulty in NCAA instead of All-American. I understand that some people are very, very good at the game on manual, but... isn't that a good thing?

Something to think about for sure.

Randiesel75 this is exactly what I meant. Before anyone is a smart ass to offer something like that, I wanted to mention that I'm not stupid, I am aware of that option but I'd rather stick around and help build the tiny FIFA community into something bigger.

And yet (I think it's gone now but I'm pretty sure, when I was on my phone, I was this), I think it was RedAL925 that said something about "take your ball and go away" or something, which is makes what I mentioned funny and sad.

These observations are correct in my opinion. And I'm not saying ban semi. It's unfair to ask people to play a game different than how they want to play it. We're here for entertainment, not for some serious competition under strict rules and that we're trying to decide on those rules. I just don't want to play semi people in some sort, I'll explain this later. And that's why we shouldn't alienate either one of the groups (noobs, hardcore guys, somewhere in the middle people).

This is how I see the assisted/semi/manual thing, it's like me enjoying to play Forza, and yet I like car racing to point, so I wouldn't play it manual gear shifting. I just want to worry about breaking and throttling and turns. And I don't even want to bother the guy that plays with certain rules (manual shifting, no bumping around, racing courtesy rules,etc) with my entertainment. I respect that.

I don't mind playing the noob that uses semi and me using manual. If it's going to make him better at his semi game, that's great. If it's going to lead him in the direction to a player that I will enjoy more in the future, I will spare my time to play the guy. And for that reason in the past I mentioned I wouldn't mind playing manual while some use semi (because they are new to the game). But, what I don't want to see is, people get too competitive, I don't want some expert that knows how to take advantage of semi to score from every corner kick,etc to beat me, and then brag about winning the league and how good he is, etc.

For that reason, it would be nice to have separate leagues for manual and semi. But then, at the same time, it appears like for those guys that like manual, there are also bunch of other inconveniences that they haven't been able to commit fully to expectations of the TFL leagues. And then there are also other reasons I'm sure.

To get the manual people together, I posted a thread

http://forums.traditionsportsonline...ifa-players-are-there-any-around-here.102593/

And yet, not much interest at all. At first it's a bit of reading for those who got to that part. But once you understand the model, it's a lot less work than committing to the traditional (literaly) leagues. And if anyone bothers to read and understand how it works, it's a place where noobs can give manual a shot to get better at it without having to get dominated by the experts and yet still compete. In this model, a noob can completely have fun and end up winning the competition between the members without having to be great at the game. The member competition part is more like fantasy football.

You're basically supporting the clubs in their divisions (with the games played) while playing sort of fantasy by picking how much you support which club.

And Randy, yes I am close minded just like some other people. And I work very well with other close minded people that are on the same page with me

In. I'm a.so assuming we are playing manual through balls.. I also think 4.5 star teams for the top league and down from there.

I don't think it has anything to do with elitism. I think it has to do with people actually making a mistake or two. Do soccer players never miss a pass? Of course they miss passes, quite often. However, on full assist and semi, they rarely do. Plus, on manual, you can actually lead people into space which is more realistic. Further more, it's very unrealistic to score top 90 from 35 yards repeatedly which is so annoying on full assist and quite possible on semi still. I would say I'm good on manual but that isn't why I enjoy it. It just feels more real. That being said, I am in regardless because I love the sport and the game. I just might yell at my TV more if it's semi.

Allons Les Bleus!

I agree

I don't think anyone disputes the cheesiness of full assist, that's nowhere close to sim.

I don't know when the last time everyone played semi, but you still have to face the right direction and put the correct weight on your passes. I'm not saying that's a hard thing to do, but passes are certainly missed and shooting is not nearly as automatic as in years past.

Listen I'm not anti-manual controls; if I weren't in this league it would probably be my default by now. But we (at this point) sacrifice total control for greater accessibility, it's really simple as that.

I am definitely interested. Count me in. can't wait

Sooooo manual thru balls still, right?

niuhuskie224

i am definitely in, had i great time last season. For me i prefer manual but semi works. I just want to play, i miss it to much. niuhuskie224 i wont be here for the start of the season, i will be on my honeymoon on October 7th to October 14th so maybe we can work something out when i get back to play the games i missed .