Game Changer(s) Watching Out For The "Little Things"

I'll tell you personally, when I am sitting in the Madden studio looking at the game, I come back here and reference things people have pointed out. I don't have time to wade through a thread. 3-4 days go very fast at a time down there.

I like specific issues with reproducible steps, and/or specific things bullet pointed for me. I promise you I ask every question I can find and have the opportunity to ask.

I don't always CHOOSE to relay the answers to those questions to people in a post because I don't like things getting quoted and carried to the far corners of the interwebz, but I often come back and post NDA will explain things in our chat box (which isn't publicly accessible) or via PM. People here know if I want things to be publicly read I would post it in a thread. If people aren't respectful about that, I don't continue to tell them things in the future. Trust is important to me.

Sometimes I am not able to share the answers, regardless of where in the cycle the game is.

Fair enough. So let's treat this thread as a rough draft of sorts in search of a little things thread. Can you provide examples of "bullet points" and the format for the thread to be the most effective.

Example:

Could you ask:

• A
• B
• C
• D
• E

Keep in mind that I can't just walk in and say, "YOU HAVE TO DO X". I can try to sell why that would be great, and the more ammunition for my argument the easier it is for me to sell. Implementation costs money, something has to offset the cost to add things, and time is the currency I need to offset to move things in the priority queue. I don't always succeed.

Do you see at all where I coming from with the intention or spirit of this? You are a GCer, that is an admin/owner on this site. You have posted in this thread and I presume have read posts 1,2 and 7, so is it possible for you to take note of those things, for later reference when at Tiburon?

Do you recall in another thread where you told me it was insulting that I would ask have you asked the devs about player movement? It comes across the same way when you keep repeating things like the bold as if I don't understand that. I'll concede there are times I couldn't care less about that stuff or think it applies to certain things but I do understand/comprehend it, lol.

Keep in mind you aren't the only person to walk in and read these threads. Sometimes I have to post some context for people coming from Google, etc. Not everything I post is an insult to your intelligence.

I have read those posts.

Something I want you to keep in mind: Not everything is an "oversight". The tone you take assuming that the results are due to negligence is the one of the quickest ways to get me to tune you out. Personally, I don't care if you THINK that, but I am far closer to reality than you are. I realize you think that Tiburon is incompetent. I've read enough of your material to know that. I simply don't agree, nor will I waste my time debating that any longer. It simply isn't productive or enjoyable for me.

I'm going to share this with you:

• Obviously schedule is fixed by the yearly release.
• They have steadily increased the amount of resources in the studio.
• You've started to see the change in scope.

I'm not sure what else you can ask. Frankly, if you don't see the effort once Madden 25 info is released, then we can have the competence conversation again.

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The point of this post is this:

• If you want to contribute in a positive way, I am all ears. The guys above are trying to explain to you how to channel that into something usable for us.
• If you want to complain, keep doing it at OS. I would rather have one good constructive post over 100 of the kind of topics you usually post at OS. I know the answer to those questions, it doesn't do me any good to read your speculation.
• If you choose to contribute, I guarantee you will have a voice in me. Learn to trust that I will do that for you.
• Clean up the things you want me to look into, make it easy for me.
• When I come back with answers, keep in mind that sometimes I'm only the messenger.

• Defensive back assignments: Add the ability to double cover a specific receiver, as well as allow for individual matchups (i.e. putting Charles Tillman on Calvin Johnson for the entire game, irrespective of play call or formation).
• Formation subs: Give the user the ability to have complete control over personnel based on the formation. Must include special teams.
• Onside Kick Display: When the computer or the other user selects an onsides kick, I should be notified in the play call screen such that I can call onside recover accordingly.

Didn't elaborate as much as you may want to, just tried to show you what I meant.

This is a good example Steve.

Well unlike you, nothing I post is meant to be an insult to anybody's intelligence.

What? I guess you completely missed or just ignored this;

Also in post #4 when I gave a specific example of when GCers where able to address a little thing, like what I have been referring to. Look man just because I don't agree with you or share your POV on whatever, doesn't mean that things I post should be taken out of context. I wonder does that not being a douche rule you posted about apply to everyone.

I searched your reply for a point and couldn't find one.

Am I missing something here? Where did I advocate contacting GC'ers directly?

You are going to have to define 'little things' for me. To me, it's nothing more than another suggestion or feedback item. I don't really differentiate between the two, I merely prioritize based on the feedback from the community. For instance, if you were to suggest that Michigan State's away uniforms have a stripe in the incorrect place, it would immediately go to the bottom of my list. Simply because no one here (and especially me) cares about uniforms.

I want to help you, but I'm having a hard time understanding what it is that you actually want. Every post seems to just be a dance around what you are trying to accomplish.

I appreciate the examples I Peench and I see what you are saying now. I was just getting caught up in premise that whether beautifully outlined the way you have shown or informal like I have done early in this thread, the point is still the same. It can be frustrating if someone claims that things like this don't have merit or are understandably ignored just because they are not presented in a certain format. Again I understand that's not what you are suggesting but that's how it comes across when there are others seeming to look more for something to be offended about or a reason to not see the merit.

At the end of the day it's all good, either the stuff will get pointed out or not, addressed or not, that's nothing new. Again appreciate the help.

I find it hard to take this post serious considering all the examples of "little things" I have given ITT. I don't think the lack of a transaction log in CCM, the fact that the defensive personnel names are not shown to the offense when "panning out", etc are intentional design decisions. If you honestly can't see what I am referring to, no biggie, maybe some GCer can.

No I understand what you are referring to, I just don't understand all this other shit in this thread.

Where did I say anything about design decisions?

You are talking to the person who took it upon himself to fix the recruit height and weights in NCAA 13. I'm not saying I don't care about these things or that they should not be fixed, but this thread has derailed into frankly a dumb discussion over perception of how the GCers here handle community feedback.

Understandable, but it's the reality of the world we live in. Anywhere you go, your ideas won't have legs unless you can articulate them in a quick and effective manner.

It's not a knock on the gamechangers; just saying that if you want quick responses/action, you need to deliver your message in a manner that allows for that. You were upset nobody had responded to the thread in 3-4 days, this was my explanation as to why it didn't.

We have several gamechangers talking to you directly now. While it's clear you don't have much faith in them, it's hard to ignore the amount of access you have to them - and their willingness to engage with the community at large.

That makes two of us that doesn't understand where all the other shit ITT is coming from. If you go back and read the first few posts of mine ITT, there shouldn't be any confusion as to its' intent. Your first post ITT, you chose to focus on me mentioning "for years" and to comment on that. Then in your next to last post you stated, "You are going to have to define 'little things' for me", like you didn't know what I was talking about, lol.

Anyway, glad to hear you were the one that fixed the recruit stuff because coincidentally that's the anecdote I was referring to in post #4. So in a nutshell if there could be more of that type of stuff going on with regard to Madden too I think that would be great.

The 'for years' comment wasn't directed namely at you. It was directed at all the people in the community that say that they have been asking for something for several years and have not gotten a response. There are very few fixable issues that go multiple cycles without being addressed or looked at. However, my point was that people can't complain on their personal twitter of 23 followers or in a random post/thread on OS and expect to be heard.

My comment on your definition of the 'little things' was meant to prove that there should be no difference between the 'little things' and the overall scope of things in the game that need to be fixed. While each take different priorities, there isn't much incentive to separate out those things when scaled against general community feedback.

lol, with the bold, you just can't help yourself I guess. I will refer specifically to the defensive names from post #2 ITT. Spliff was not posting that away on some obscure Twitter account, he has been posting it in the bugs/glitches thread on OS, mentioning it to CE attendees, GCers, etc, all of which we are instructed to do to get something addressed. Your response in a nutshell was to post it on TSO because around here things get done. That's exactly what I have been attempting to do.

I understand what you are doing.

You and I both know why things on OS get lost and missed. And I'll just say this, not all GCers are created equal.

/thread for me. This is exactly why I didn't post for days in this thread.

We've given you examples of how we do things. It isn't a debate, it's how two guys who work 100 hours a week get shit done.