Help with Spread Offense Rushing

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  1. onaradio34

    onaradio34 Tryin not to show how little I know bout anything

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    Help with Spread Offense Rushing

    Through 3 games my Rushing attack has been dreadful out of the shotgun. I am using SMU playbook. I have had 0 runs of more than 20 yrds and a 5 yrd gain is considered very successful so far. Called runs are disastrous and only quick run audibles have gotten anything. Slow QB so option isnt realistic. Anything you guys can help me with?
     
  2. BG

    BG On The Rize!

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    Not trying to be funny, but scrap it! I have tried over and over again to run the spread and run out of it. It never works for me; no matter how good my team is. The cpu defense always seem to be waiting for it!!!
     
  3. bcduggan

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    Try using different line blocking that may help.

    that's L2 and any direction on Left analog stick.

    up is aggressive, left is left, right is right, down is pinch.
     
  4. onaradio34

    onaradio34 Tryin not to show how little I know bout anything

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    Thats what I was afraid of. Maybe if the CPU didnt have Nostradamus as a D coordinator it would work. Same thing every year, pick a run the D is in 4-3, pick a pass and its DB's galore.
     
  5. MurkYa21

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    I'm very successful running the ball out of shotgun..

    typically, I have a fast QB ...with out that it'd be a lot harder..

    Send me a PM with your offensive personel, and what playbook you use...

    I can probably help you out..
     
  6. Lee.Flex

    Lee.Flex Ducks Fan

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    I use the Auburn playbook in my other Dynasty with Oregon. Im decent at running out of the gun with sweeps, draws and reverses. My QB is fast, and I use the QB Sweep's and QB Powers a lot. They average about a 4 - 5 yard gain, but every once in a while he'll break one for a 20-30 yard gain. A quick QB is needed in a spread offense and zone read scheme.

    If you have a fast QB.... come out in a QB Power / sweep.... read the defense and use a quick audible if you don't like what you see. You can quick audible to the HB run, PA, quick pass or deep pass. The spread is all about finding mis-matches on the field. It took me a good season to really figure out the spread with Oregon, but now that I have it down, My offensive attack is lethal...... now if I could just play Defense :(

    Here some videos that will help.... watch Masoli at the line pre snap and look at the adjustments he makes. The zone read is crucial in the spread, and after some practice it works pretty well in the game. Its all about reading the defense :

    On this run you'll notice the zone read was to the weak side, as OSU brought pressure from the the Strong Side :
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    You'll notice 8 guys in the box on this one. Oregon shifts their line to the right, while the Purdue pressure is to the left and up the middle.
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    Oregon See's the outside pressure and runs zone read directly up the middle. If the pressure was to come up the middle, Masoli can keep the ball and sweep to the outside.
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    Great mis-direction. The line shifts left with the Defensive pressure, and Blount counters with a big TD run. Notice it was another zone read, and Masoli had an option to keep the ball.
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    Here is a zone read, HB option. QB can keep, hand off, or pitch out to the 2nd RB on the option. In this case, Dennis Dixon will keep.
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    By running plays like that, you completely open up the PA and deep passing down field. Even if your not successful with running, the defense is almost force to put 8 in the box because of the threat.... which will hurt them on 3-4 WR sets. Check out the Auburn Playbook, its the best one i've found so far.
     
  7. BG

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    The Auburn offense is what I was using. Just like onaradio said, the personel for the cpu seems to know what you are about to run. If you call a run play, the defensive line throws your linemen out of the way and make tackles themselves; even in Nickel and Dime formations. I'll keep trying, but only in Practice Mode! LOL!!!
     
  8. MurkYa21

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    Personally, I use Oregon's. Now, all of them are pretty much the same besides a play here and there, but I like to use Oregon's.

    Here are the best playbooks to run the spread (option):

    Miss St, Florida, Oregon, Auburn..there was another one, but I can't think of it..
     
  9. onaradio34

    onaradio34 Tryin not to show how little I know bout anything

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    I really don't want to run the option right now. Against the computer Im ok but against a user with the lag I just can't time it right where my qb doesnt do a cheesy pitch as he gets drilled. Im trying to run SMU's offense as close to form as possible which is about 75-80% percent pass so I dont want run heavy shotgun packages.
     
  10. Lee.Flex

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    If you want to pass the ball 80% of the time, I suggest just using the quick play "run" feature at times when you see the defense is giving you room to run. I would say that Oregon, Auburn and other spread Playbooks have a good deal of pass, but they also utilize a lot of PA / Zone read runs. Im at work so I don't have any playbook right in front of me.... but I would imagine that Texas, Oklahoma, Arizona, Houston, and your own SMU playbook have a good deal of pass plays. I also think that Texas and Oklahoma have some Ace sets, as well as I from or Strong and Weak sets which can help you run the ball if needed. Aurburn also has some Ace sets along with a Weak-I form, but they are not spread formations.
     
  11. onaradio34

    onaradio34 Tryin not to show how little I know bout anything

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    Yeah the quick audible run is my only success so far. I appreciate your guys help. The problem may also be that I am expecting too much so early into changing offenses. Honestly, I am remedial at best with the spread.
     

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