Just for Cade . . . Let's Debate

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  1. Diddy81

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    If your life depended on the ability of your said team to be over .500
    Who would you have coach it????
    Top 5 please


    all-time and current list so 5 each​

     
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  2. Diddy81

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    1. Walsh​
    2. Knoll​
    3. Belechick​
    4. Lombardi​
    5. Halas​
    current​
    1. Belechick​
    2. Tomlin​
    3. Coughlin​
    4. Payton​
    5. Jim Harbaugh​
     
  3. soxandgators

    soxandgators The Gator Nation

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  4. SteamboatReb

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  5. _MG_

    _MG_ Watching Folks Swim

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    Ever:
    1. Belichek
    2. Walsh
    3. Shula
    4. DITKA
    5. Lombardi

    Current:
    1. Belichek
    2. Tomlin
    3. Couglin
    4. Payton
    5. Reid
     
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  6. biggcoug65

    biggcoug65 49er for Life

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    Walsh
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    Cowher
     
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  7. KnightNoles

    KnightNoles Learn to Compete

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    you willy nilly son of a gun, i think you made some people think and went over some heads with this post...
     
  8. BobJr

    BobJr To each their own

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    Lombardi
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  9. SteamboatReb

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    diddy said "your said team" so I assumed he was talking about the HK Patriots
     
  10. NeuroticTruth

    NeuroticTruth dont know , dont care

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    Why is everyone so high on Mike Tomlin? Is he a good coach, sure; but in no way is he the the 2nd best coach in the NFL atm (I'll throw some numbers out to try and backup my statement later as at work I'm limited to what I can "research").

    As I'm not really an old school NFL guy, I'll go with my top 5 current:

    1. Belichick (simply put on his ability to get guys to buy into the system).
    2. McCarthy
    3. Payton
    4. Fisher
    5. Coughlin
     
  11. BobJr

    BobJr To each their own

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    IDK how you guys forgot Landry..

    Created the 4-3 defense, the flex offense (Motion) and is the 3rd winningest coach of all time....
     
  12. BobJr

    BobJr To each their own

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    You must be cray with this list..
     
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  13. _MG_

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    the lack of Ditka in this thread is astonishing!


     
  14. BobJr

    BobJr To each their own

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    Ditka learned from Landry....................................
     
  15. NeuroticTruth

    NeuroticTruth dont know , dont care

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    What McCarthy did two years ago with Green Bay was amazing. 16 players hurt, many of whom were major components to their team, and they still win the Super Bowl. While I'm not a huge Green Bay fan, you gotta give the man props.

    Fisher has always been high in my book. He consistently won in Tennessee with a crazy ass owner and garbage teams.
     
  16. BobJr

    BobJr To each their own

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    A team with Eddie George and Steve McNair isn't garbage sir. If you look after the super bowl, Jeff fisher sucked.
     
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  17. cadepetty247

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  18. NeuroticTruth

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    I didnt say every team was garbage, cleary George / McNair in their primes made a hell of a squad.

    The Titans went to the Super Bowl in '99. After that Jeff Fisher was 97-79 in Tennessee with virtually no stars (yes I know CJ2K etc, but no collection of play makers) once McNair and George were gone. From 2000 - 2010 (his last season in Tennessee) he had season records of 13-3 (twice), 11-5, 12-4, and 10-6.

    I'm not saying hes the greatest coach of all time, but if I was an NFL owner, he'd definitely be #4 on my list of coaches to go after. I've always admired his coaching style and his ability to win games.
     
  19. BobJr

    BobJr To each their own

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    He also had seasons of 7-9, 5-11, 4-12, 8-8, 8-8, and 6-10. I'm not saying he's bad. But if I was an owner I'd sure as hell wouldn't consider him.

    He does ok with talent but the mark of a great coach is to win and lead without the great talent. Fisher doesn't do that
     
  20. NeuroticTruth

    NeuroticTruth dont know , dont care

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    You consider Vince Young, Lendale White, Chris Brown, and a handful of no name WR's great talent? That was virtually the entire offense in 2007 and they added CJ2K in 2008. While he's had some down years (like 99% of every coach out there), hes also turned mediocre talent into winners.

    I understand where you're coming from, but again, the initial question wasnt who was the GOAT, it was who YOU would want to lead your team.

    While Fisher may not be your favorite coach of all time, hes definitely in my top 5 of current coaches.
     
  21. BobJr

    BobJr To each their own

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    As my wife would say. "don't get your panties in a bunch"
     
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    NeuroticTruth dont know , dont care

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    I wasnt, I was just debating. :)
     
  23. Diddy81

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    With that said make your case against Tomlin?????
     
  24. NeuroticTruth

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    Dont get me wrong, hes a good coach. He's 55-25 in his 5 years coaching with two Super Bowl appearances and one ring, so obviously the guy knows what he's doing. Personally though, I wouldnt put him in the top 3 let alone top 5 on a list of active head coaches in the NFL. He inherited a team chocked full of talent and was setup from day one to win. I also dont think he manages personnel very well.


    Like I said, Tomlin is a good coach with a GREAT defensive mind. I just need more then a 5 year sample to put him in the top 5 of the NFL in terms of coaches.
     
  25. Diddy81

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    This isnt a lifetime achievement award, I want the guy thats gonna save my life and I feel comfortable with him in my 5. Guys want to play for him, never heard an ill word said about him.

    Your top 5 is solid also. I think we would both be safe.
     

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