Kasper's Offseason Corn-er

Discussion in 'TMFL' started by Kasper, Oct 16, 2013.

  1. Kasper

    Kasper The Ghost Himself

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    I'm going to talk about all the offseason happenings (or at least the ones I feel like covering). I won't talk any about coaches as that has mostly passed (LOL @ HOVA) but I may pick a few of them to highlight as I am curious what a couple owners are going to do.

    For starters I think I'm going to go over the recent trades and grade each side of the deal.

    So yeah, I'm off to start that.
     
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  2. Kasper

    Kasper The Ghost Himself

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    Browns receive:
    • Cardinals 2013 3rd round pick (79th Overall)
    Cardinals receive:
    • OLB Paul Kruger, 84 OVR, 27 Y/O

    Opinion: I think this was a solid trade- Baron has shown he knows how to use good OLB's (case in point last cycle in TMFL with the Chiefs) and the Browns do a fine job of trading away the slim talent they do have. In all seriousness, I think the Browns got great value here and Kruger could have been had for cheaper.

    Cardinals: B
    Browns: B
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    Packers receive:
    • DE JJ Watt, 99 OVR, 25 Y/O
    Texans receive:
    • WR Jordy Nelson, 86 OVR, 29 Y/O
    • 2014 1st round pick
    • 2015 1st round pick

    Opinion: Since this is my own trade, I will pretty much go over what both sides were thinking (AFAIK). Dakota gets the player I'm assuming he has a Badger man crush on, while also getting the best defensive lineman in the game ratings wise. I on the other hand get a boost at WR- Andre Johnson won't last much longer- and some great draft picks to build for the future. My only worry is that this puts Dakota over the hump and these draft picks become increasingly less useful.

    Packers: B
    Texans: ?
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    Lions receive:
    • WR Roddy White, 87 OVR, 32 Y/O
    Falcons receive:
    • 2014 2nd round pick
    • 2014 4th round pick

    Opinion: While I think Hova overpaid- I'm curious to see how Roddy White will do in Detroit. I'm betting he under performs and Hova wishes he didn't quite make this deal. On the bright side, he didn't give up an arm and a leg and he now has two less draft picks to use on a WR. Cole got some good value here for an aging WR- I really like this trade for Atlanta.

    Lions: C
    Falcons: A
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    Eagles receive:
    • QB Terrelle Pryor, 76 OVR, 25 Y/O
    Raiders receive:
    • 2014 3rd round pick
    • 2015 3rd round pick

    Opinion: Great value trade by Hal- it was clear Pryor wasn't in his plans at QB and he got some outstanding value. While I think it could have been had for cheaper, Jowers at least gets a mobile QB to back up in what I can only assume is a mobile QB based system he runs. Still, I think this was a vast overpay by Jowers.

    Raiders: A
    Eagles: D
     
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  3. Hova

    Hova Live Action. YiYiYi!

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    I'm basically giving up a 4th round pick to F over noles, where he would have went for a 2. One less headache I have to deal with 1 on 1 when trying to stop AP Cheese.


    And if anyone knows anything about my trade past you know I will not regret anything as I have never drafted a single player worth a shit. But great point, less picks give me less chance to fuck up ;)
     
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  4. sawemoff

    sawemoff #FearTheBeard

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    Hova's TMFL Draft History:
    Round 1- WR
    Round 2- WR
    Round 3- WR
    Round 4- WR
    Round 5- WR
    Round 6- WR
    Round 7- WR

    Said every draft ever
     
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  5. Kasper

    Kasper The Ghost Himself

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    Curious where TMFL thinks the former Bucs signal caller will end up!
     
  6. sawemoff

    sawemoff #FearTheBeard

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    I voted Oakland but I can see Baron doing some 'back door' deal to get him.
     
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  7. Kasper

    Kasper The Ghost Himself

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    A little "under the table" work?
     
  8. I Peench

    I Peench Caught in the hustle

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    You spelled corn wrong
     
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  9. Kasper

    Kasper The Ghost Himself

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    even better, done.
     
  10. Cole Copeland

    Cole Copeland Mr. Irrelevant

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    I picked Jacksonville. bawvu97 could certainly use all the help at QB he can get and Raiders will go QB 1st overall
     
  11. Kasper

    Kasper The Ghost Himself

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    The fact that he couldn't resign Henne or Tebow also strongly point to a push for Freeman.
     
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  12. Hova

    Hova Live Action. YiYiYi!

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    I would think JAX drafts a QB
     
  13. dakota7

    dakota7 Former Blue Chip Recruit

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    My thought process on the JJ Watt trade.

    1) Adrian Peterson
    2) Calvin Johnson
    3) Brandon Marshall

    Lather, rinse, repeat

    Nelson and Cobb both have expiring contracts this year and I wasn't paying both. Lucky for me you never even mentioned Cobb's name. So considering one of these WRs was probably gone, Watt feels like a steal for 2 picks. And yes, I have a man crush on him
     
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  14. Kasper

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    I prefer the height of Nelson. I was in the same boat with Watt-- I did not want to pay the money I can only assume a 99 overall would want at the peak of his career.
     
  15. dakota7

    dakota7 Former Blue Chip Recruit

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    Don't get me wrong, I love Jordy. Can't pay everyone.
     
  16. Kasper

    Kasper The Ghost Himself

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    Exactly. Maybe Andre will retire after next season and I can just pay Jordy.
     
  17. The Richuation

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    Yeah, Kruger is my 3rd best OLB but making 8m a year... Smell ya later.
     
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  18. dakota7

    dakota7 Former Blue Chip Recruit

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    I didn't realize he's only 27. I thought he over 30 already.
     
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    HAL9100 TSO's Resident Antagonist

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    To defend Jowers a bit here, I think he was caught off guard with Vick retiring and hadn't had time to prepare for that. You may say he paid a lot for Pryor, but he went out and got the QB he wanted for his system and who will likely be starting for him next season for 2 3rd round picks. If Pryor pans out for him as a starter, then he got very good value as well, imo.
     
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  20. Kasper

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    I still think it could have been cheaper, but that makes it seem better.
     
  21. Baron

    Baron "I'm PFP's reckoning."

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    Yea I figured. I like having depth at LB, keeps the guys fresh. Plus he fills a need and is the perfect LOLB for me. Pleasure doing business with you.
     
  22. Black Republican

    Black Republican TMFL Commish -- **ISYMFS** --

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    Vick's gone, Pryor rated 81 OVR with 90 speed and 92 THP(cost the most). His short and med acc cost all of 400 some points. Pryor will be serviceable from the go and will remain a starter for the rest of the file. Vick had similar passing attributes this past season and we managed to get him right before he pulled the plug on us. If Barkley's noodle arm didn't cost 15K+ we'd turn to him.
     
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  23. Baron

    Baron "I'm PFP's reckoning."

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    I should have made a move on Pryor, but I'm still salty about his time at OSU.
     
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  24. Black Republican

    Black Republican TMFL Commish -- **ISYMFS** --

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    haha, you know I'm snatching up all the Buckeyes' i can!
     
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  25. biggcoug65

    biggcoug65 49er for Life

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    go BLUE
     
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