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Discussion in 'Thread Archive' started by bamagrad, Jul 11, 2012.

  1. bamagrad

    bamagrad Back to Back British Amateur Champion

    Jun 11, 2009
    In The Trenches- The War in the Trenches will be Big this Season as the best of the best square off to determine who is the best. The Idea for this League came from my own design. I have hosted a dyn with my friends when Online Gaming came to the Ps2. We stuck to One Conference Idea cause of the idea of having User Battles to determine Conference Supreme. The other was just being able to enjoy others company while we play. The Battles will be Fierce and Tough, but enjoying each others company is priceless.


    Going with 1 Conference, I have selected the Conferences with Championship Games. ACC,B1G,Pac-12, and The SEC. Members will Vote on Which Conference we will represent this season. In Case of a Tie the Commish will Determine the Final Vote. If 2 Conferences are Tied then the Deciding Vote will be either one of those 2.


    TSO Rules


    F.1.0 Conduct: We ask that you act like the mature adult you are on the forums. Taking part in a debate is acceptable and encouraged, but any type of slander or personal attacks will not be tolerated.

    F.1.A Posting adult explicit content or NSFW material is not allowed, period. If you think it's borderline, it is probably not appropriate for this websites.

    F.1.B Putting down a team or college institution, beyond general banter, is not allowed . We are a community full of alumni and hardcore fans. We encourage camaraderie, but please be respectful of others.

    F.1.C Public flaming of another member will not be tolerated. Take it to PMs if you need to. Treat other players, both gameplay and attitude, how you would want to be treated. This is a friends first league. If your taking these game "seriously" you need to re-evaluate your priorities. We are here to have fun and play a video game, it's a mythical national championship not a real one. Respect your opponent and have fun with it.

    F.2.0 Banning: Any misconduct on the forums or while participating in a league is punishable. Banning is completely and solely at the discretion of the management team. In general, your first offense will land you a warning, the second will give you a couple days off to think about it and the third will be your last here at TF.

    F.3.0 Sportsmanship:: We are all grown adults here. There will be a zero tolerance policy for any public slander on the boards. If you have a problem, take it up via PM and settle it. The management team here are not your parents. Quitting games is frowned upon, no matter how badly you are getting beat or disagree with what has transpired. Remember that you are just playing a game and if you are going to be taking it too serious, you need to reevaluate your priorities.

    F.3.A Absolutely under no circumstances are you to quit or otherwise purposefully disconnect from a User vs User game (League game, ranked game, tournament game, etc). This is the epitome of poor sportsmanship and is punishable by removing you from said league/tournament or from this site altogether. This is a serious offense and against this community's mature mentality towards online sim-style gaming.

    F.3.B If in the unlikely event you have a problem with someone's gameplay, DO NOT QUIT. Finish the game, save some highlight videos and present it to your commissioner. The commissioner and you can present it to the management team if a problem still exists or a resolution can't be agreed upon. Sometimes, the best thing to do is to give yourself some time to digest what just happened. Sometimes games can be frustrating, but that does not mean that what your opponent is doing is necessarily cheese. You should always give your opponent the benefit of the doubt.

    F.3.C If you are here because you like to win, just leave now. Submitting to unsportsmanlike activities will not be tolerated. Finish the game, tell your opponent good game and walk away. Being a sore loser or gloating about a win is not appropriate behavior here.

    F.4.0 Spamming: We ask that you do not post with intentions to sell or advertise anything. We also politely ask that you do not post openings or opportunities for leagues from outside websites. Multiple irrelevant posts is also considered spam. Failure to comply with these rules will result in immediate termination of your account.

    GamePlay in TSO and In The Trenches

    G.1.0 Depth chart changes are not permitted before the opening kickoff. Each owner is responsible for setting their depth charts weekly in the franchise. You are allowed to make a depth move during the game

    • If a player is struggling.
    • If you are trying to prevent an injury.
    • If the game is a blow out.
    G.2.0 Controlling Players: You cannot pick plays and let the computer run them. Nor can you utilize the "Ask Corso" feature. You must control your QB throws and ballcarrier movement at all times.

    G.3.0 Audibles: When calling an audible, you must allow the defense to adjust and be set for at least one second before snapping the ball.

    G.4.0 Mixing up the Playcalling: Varying your playcalling on both offense and defense is a requirement of sim play. On offense, be sure to show your opponent different formations and different plays out of each. Of course, exceptions on offense come from your playbook. If you are using Florida or Georgia Tech's playbooks, for example, the formations that are available are not very different. However, even in those playbooks, different looks are available and should be utilized. It is understandable (and acceptable) for a team that is down by a lot to become one dimensional, needing to throw the ball. By the same token, a team that is up by a lot is permitted to become one dimensional running the ball to keep the clock running. As long as the game is close, we expect all box scores to reflect a concerted effort at reasonable play calling.

    On defense, be sure to mix up coverages, bltizes, and the like. Showing blitz should be used VERY sparingly, but can be an option to mix it up. Sitting in Cover 3 or DE Contain all game, for example, is prohibited. In addition to making games more sim, mixing up your playcalling makes you a more lethal weapon as a coach. The more versatile you are on either side of the ball, the more you will be able to play mind games and set up plays against your opponent. The only exception to this goes along with offenses becoming one dimensional. If your opponent is forced to become one dimensional due to the score, you will be permitted to do so on defense.

    When making adjustments on the field pre-snap, be sure that you are not making the exact same adjustments on every play. Constant press coverage, constant line stunts, shifting the DL and linebackers in the same manner every play and the like falls under the category of not mixing up play calling, and is frowned upon. In addition, moving anyone other than the player you will control is prohibited. If you find yourself in a situation where your guys move as you are switching to the player you intend to control, audible to your original play by pressing X+LT (360) or []+L2 (PS3).


    O.1.0 - Going on 4th Down: We encourage straight play in this league, however, we do not want to limit players to the point where they cannot play aggressively. With that in mind, there will be a simple rule on 4th downs:
    • Whenever you are past the 50 yard line with 1 yard or less to go, you are permitted to for it on 4th down.
    • If you are behind by two touchdowns or more in the second half, you can go for it whenever you like.
    • If you are the losing team in the 4th quarter, you can go for it whenever you like.
    O.1.A - There are exceptions to these 4th down rules that will be handled on a league-by-league basis. Unless it is otherwise stated, these rules are law.

    O.2.0 - Motioning: Motioning by backs and receivers is allowed. If the defense audibles before your motion is complete you must wait for the defense to get reset before snapping the ball, when possible. Otherwise, you are free to snap the ball when the Motion man reaches their spot on the field and the motion is complete.

    O.3.0 - Hurry Up Offense: All teams are allowed to run the "hurry up" offense in both two minute drill situations. Any team losing in the 4th quarter is permitted to hurry up as often as they like. When using the hurry up offense, please allow your opponent to set their defense before snapping the ball. Purposely trying to cause offsides penalties or taking advantage of defensive AI is not allowed.

    O.3.A - The above rules do not apply to teams who use the "No Huddle" offense feature in the game. However, it should be noted that fast tempo offenses do not rush to the line and snap it. You must allow the opponents defense to come set. Also, it is unrealistic to rush to the line of scrimmage after incomplete passes or when a player runs out of bounds (or any other clock stoppage).

    O.4.0 - Playclock: We're all here to play football. Keep in mind we play anywhere from 6-8 minute quarters here; not 15 like the NCAA. So please choose your plays as quickly as possible on offense and make every effort to do so before the play clock gets close to running out. We do realize, however, that certain situations in the game may require some extra time when choosing a play. You may run the game clock with under 3 minutes remaining in the 4th quarter. Or if your trying to prevent another possession before the half.

    O.5.0 - Play Action: Keep in mind it is unrealistic to call a PA Pass when it is 3rd down and more than 10. You may call a designed PA play and audible your RB to block or go into a pattern to stop the Playaction. Playaction should not be "over utilized" when you have not established the running game. Plain drop backs or shotgun formations should be the main passing formation for throwing the ball. Playaction is used to catch a defense off guard when you've been successful and pounding the rock during the drive or game. Be prudent in it's use.

    O.6.0- QB Scrambling: Unrealistic QB scrambling/sprinting is frowned upon on pass plays, including screens. Constantly dancing from sideline to sideline, running straight backwards or well behind the line of scrimmage without being under pressure is not realistic. This does not include option plays, designed QB runs or broken/pressured play situations.

    O.7.0- QB Dropback: Purposefully dropping too far back in the pocket during regular passing plays is not allowed. Defensive AI doesn't take into account how far back in the pocket the QB is, allowing for wide open out routes and passes into the flats. This includes hitting a WR on said routes on screen plays.

    O.8.0 -Running Up the Score: Good sportsmanship is a major part of Tradition Football, so running up the score on user opponents will not be tolerated. This includes both User and CPU games. Please use good judgment when leading by a large margin. There isn't a reason to see multiple 70-80 point scoring games.

    O.8.A - There are things you should do when on the positive end of a blow out. Removing your starters, punting, running the ball and chewing the clock should be staples of your gameplan. Starters should not be scoring when up by four scores. Late scoring will also not be tolerated. When up big, there should not be a reason to score in the closing minutes of the game.

    O.9.0 -Option Piches: Make sure that you time your pitches correctly when running the option. There are instances in the game where the QB can make awkward, unrealistic and sometimes even illegal pitches that should be avoided. If you happen to execute a questionable pitch, the right thing to do is to try and negate any yards you have gained. Excessive amounts of questionable pitches is cheese.

    O.10.0 - Motion: Manually motioning your WR's before the snap should be kept to a realistic minimum. There are plenty of plays with green routes and defined motion in them that you can utilize. But again, don't abuse them.

    O.11.0 - Spreading the Ball Around: WR's should be the main target for passing plays. HB's should be checkdown receivers and not primary targets. HB receptions should not get out of hand or be a primary aspect of an offensive gameplan. Your 3rd, 4th, and 5th WR should not be a primary target. Majority of passes should be thrown to your two outside WRs with few exceptions.

    O.12.0 - Two QB Offenses: If you have one passing QB and one running QB, you should limit the rotation of them. Yes, it has happened "some" in real life, but it doesn't translate well to the game. Mainly due to the fact that the defense can't see who is jogging in and out of the huddle. For this reason, QB rotation will only be allowed in groups of ten or more plays or at the beginning of possession. A Two QB System will only be allowed when a program is moving from one type of offense to another (meaning that the current starter is incapable of running certain portions of the playbook). This transition period can only exist for a maximum of one year.

    O.13.0 - Wildcat Personnel Groupings: This should operate similar to the QB rotation. For playbooks that are designed to use a wildcat personnel grouping, offensive playcalling should realistically reflect this change. Meaning that the wildcat personnel should stay on the field for a grouping of plays and not switched in and out for individual plays here and there.

    O.14.0 - Excessive offensive audibles (changing formations): Calling audibles at the line of scrimmage is commonplace in every level of football. However, these audibles are almost always to plays in the same formation, or to flip the side of the play. Audibles to a completely different formation are prohibited. Audibles to a different play in the same formation, or to flip the personnel to the other side of the field to run the same play is permitted. Calling an audible to change the formation circumvents personnel rules (I.E. WR at TE, WR at FB, HB at FB), and is not allowed.


    D.1.0– Moving Players: On defense, shifting linebackers and the defensive line is permitted. However, if you move a individual defensive player manually before the snap you must control that player at the snap of the ball. This includes moving a player to cover an assignment.
    Constantly spreading or pinching your DL or LBs and 'showing blitz' falls under the rules for mixing up your playcalling. If for some reason one of your players doesn't line up correctly, you can move him to where he needs to be and make an additional switch and move. This is easy to spot from the offenses point of view and rarely happens (maybe once in every couple games).

    D.2.0 – Blitzing: While blitzing is certainly a part of the game, please be realistic when doing so, and do not use it excessively. Any attempt to confuse the AI when blitzing is prohibited (ie. spreading your defensive line then shifting your LB's to create AI holes). This also falls under the rules for mixing up playcalling.

    D.3.0 - Defensive Playcalling: Please call realistic defensive plays for the proper situation. Use a 4 or 5 DL set to stop the run and a 3 or 4 DL set to play the pass. There are formations in these games that allow for unrealistic results. Using the 3-3-5 or 1-5-5 to stop the run, however effective it may be, will not be tolerated. There are OL AI problems with these formations that make them super-effective against heavy run sets.

    D.4.0 - Defensive Subs: OLB are not suppose to play DE, Safeties are not suppose to play LB, etc in any package or formation, even if it's a game based package. It is just too much of an AI headache. Keep players in their original positions at all times.

    D.5.0 - Playing the Position: Safeties do not normally play close to the line of scrimmage. Defensive linemen do not play in the secondary. Regardless of what player you are controlling, make sure you are playing that position. Controlling a safety and crashing him straight towards the line of scrimmage is not sim. A safety's first step is NEVER towards the line of scrimmage. Note that nickel DBs and SS (rovers) in a 4-2-5 can also be easily abused. Use sim judgment in the way you control players on defense.


    ST.1.0 - Fake Punts and FGs: Any fake punt or field goal must follow the same rule used when going for it on fourth down. If you are allowed to go for it on 4th down in that situation, you can also fake the punt or field goal. Faking a FG or punt is part of the game and provides "the element of surprise," but please be realistic. These are utilized in NCAA but on a limited basis, so please keep that in mind.

    ST.2.0– Onside Kicks: Onside kicks are permitted at any time by the losing team in the 4th quarter only.


    WG.1.0 - Pausing: NCAA allows a limited number of pauses during the game, so please keep that in mind. If it's ever necessary to pause the game, please provide a quick explanation to your opponent if your not utilizing your headset at that time. Pausing the game to show poor sportsmanship will not be tolerated. Please do not start a game if you know something will interfere with your playing time.

    WG.1.A Most game's pauses operate on a timer. If you select 'Resume' it will put your opponent on a timer before it auto resumes the game. Please take note that if you do not see a timer on your screen, your opponent has not selected 'Resume'.

    WG.2.0- Disconnects: Games will disconnect from time to time for various reasons (and usually have nothing to do with either user's setup). It will be up to the players involved to figure out a resolution; with the choices being to either replay the game from the beginning or simulate for an obvious winner. If you cannot reach a resolution, contact the commish. TF expects all owners to have a reliable, high-speed ISP. If you are having any type of Internet trouble, please do not start the game until the problem is resolved.

    WG.3.0- Quitting a Game: - Please do not start a game if there's a chance you will not be able to finish it. In the case of an emergency situation where you are forced to leave the game, an agreement should be made between both players as to whether the game will be replayed from the start or simulated in the opposing teams favor.

    WG.4.0 - Scheduling: Leagues here operate on an as “fast as we can goâ€Â schedule (unless otherwise stated), missing games will be necessary at times. We are a community full of people who have lives outside of these leagues. TF simply asks that you make every effort to schedule and play your own games by utilizing the message boards. ALL GAMES MUST BE SCHEDULED ON THE FORUMS. If a problem arises with your game and it is not scheduled between both parties on the forums, it will result in a sim. In the unfortunate event that you are unable to schedule a game, we ask that you do the following:
    -- Notify your opponent via email and message board as early in the week as possible.
    -- Notify the commissioner that your opponent will need to play the CPU or that your CPU game will need to be simmed.

    Failure to follow these guidelines will result in a sim loss to your team

    Restarts will not be Tolerated.

    Use of Gameplanning-Not Allowed
    Def Keys- Not Allowed (Don't have it in real life won't have it here.

    Game Info

    12 Min
    Playbook Use- Can only use what's in the game, No Custom PB's.
    Def Can't Use- No Base Defense from Nickel,Dime or Quarter. only 3-4,4-3,4-4.

    Recruiting Rules
    The general Rule in TF is to recruit your needs. and honestly its the best route! I Dont want to have to police this with you guys. Therefore, If every1 is honest and recruits fairly (ex: dont recruit 3 HBs when u only need 1), then i wont have to start punishing people for it.

    General rules to follow

    1. Dont go over your 70 man roster limit.
    A. If u go over 70 on yr roster then u will get a -2 Scholarship penalty. (if u go 1 over then 2 scholarships docked, if u go 2 over then 4 scholarships docked)
    B. if it happens again, then you will get a -5 Scholarship penalty and u have to Cut yr Best Recruits that u recruited.

    2. Dont recruit 3-4 players in a position..when you only need 1.
    A. If u do sign yr 1 to the position needed then u must cut the rest from the Recruiting Board. (ex- if u have 3 backs for 1 position then u must cut the other 2 from the Board).

    3. Limit of only 2 five stars players to the teams. If found with more then you will cut them from yr team on Cut Day.


    I have Found that this is the easiest way to communicate with your opponent(ex- pee break, smoke break and so on). Texting is just getting Old and Frustrating. Seems to me that the screen is getting slower when in the middle of a game. Plus Keeps everyone in check and gives us a chance to get to know everyone better.

    Giving Back to the Dynasty

    As always in order to make a dynasty successful it must have appeal, Writing Summaries of your games is always great plus makes the league look great. (might have others interested in our dynasty). The Summaries you write up doesn't have to be Great, But provide enough info about the game and how it went. (I'll be Looking). Plus if anyone wants to add something extra to the league is greatly appreciated.


    Since We are a 48 Hr league, Game Scheduling is Crucial everyone will be responsible for posting their available times, time zone and when you can play your game. We will have a Thread for this so everyone can post their availabilty.

    U get the boot if....
    -you break the rules..simple
    -little no forum activity
    -not being up to date on the OD..which goes with forum activity
    -forum flaming
    -I see you puttig other games before the OD. The OD comes first here...or we have other guys willing to join who will put it first

    No Callouts either in the game or on the forum. If a disagreement comes between 2 players get with the Commish to solve the issue. No Threads saying other then Good Game will be Tolerated (and I will delete them).


    bamagrad Commish
    Antonio T.
    Electricfied Zombies

    Welcome Everyone to the League and Let's Get It On!!
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2012

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