Guys, I figured I would start the conversation since offseason is around the corner. First, I'm not trying to create a bitch fest here, honestly I think there are some undercurrents of discontent for the first time I can remember in The Deuce. I love you guys, seriously. The only reason I log into this site much of the time is because of you. That said, I want what is good for the league, despite my own preferences. We have a couple of issues I think that we need to get past. 1. The stats arguments. Since when do we do this? We've had instances in the past where things got out of line, but we've all respected Drifter enough to know that he is doing his best to make the league fall in line with reality. Personally, I think the issue with OM's tight end runs deeper than his stats. Honestly he shouldn't have ever been able to recruit that guy, but it is what it is. OM's aware the the guy is a crazy freak. If the issue is where he lines up, move him outside and let's stop arguing. Arguing with a lawyer is pointless anyway. All of us know that the last time EA released a tuner pack it changed the game pretty dramatically. Obviously the sliders need to be adjusted to make it harder to run the ball, I think everyone is in agreement with that. Let's give Drifter time to adjust the league to that and call it a day. 2. Coaching Carousel Personally, the only dynamic I've ever cared about with CC is that people be able to earn their place at a top job, then perform in a realistic fashion in order to keep that job. I know most of you seem to think that CC is "broken" and I will respectfully disagree, I think it has done a pretty fair job doling out opportunities give the restrictions WE placed on it. That said, I would prefer that people actually enjoy the league, obviously. We have Bondzai who has checked out for the year, khaalis who has check out for the year, and Jr who has already voiced his displeasure with things. My opinion is that people would have been far more satisfied with CC is we had allowed open movement. The builders could have stayed where they are, or moved up slightly to build, the acheivers could have moved up to bigger schools, etc. I never thought "balance" was that much of an issue with this group, I always thought "rivalry" was what made the group strong. Everyone wanted the same opportunity to compete, even if they never will. So, we have ended up where we are, with half the league uninterested or upset, either because they are bored being by themselves or because they aren't at the top of the heap yet. The question is now, how do we where everyone is happy? ==== I'm not going to address the stats argumenents because all think all of us are grown ups and can let Drifter iron out those problems. As far as CC and team movement, we have a couple of interesting dynamics that need to be sorted out. In order to actually transition the team setup to a place where everyone is content, I would like to get a better idea of what people want, that way everyone is aware of everyone elses wants. We can only get to the point we are cohesive again if we all put aside our personal wants and look at what it will take to make the league stronger. I'm saying that despite my previous attempts to argue FOR CC. So, if everyone could answer my questions, I would appreciate it. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1. What is important for you to enjoy the league? Is it competitiveness, the ability to build, developing rivalries, etc? 2. If you were in charge, how would teams look? 3. Do you feel it is unfair/unwise to have success tied to team selection? 4. What does "balance" mean to you? 5. What issues harm your enjoyment in the league? Examples include: things that are not realistic, etc.