*** League Reconfiguration: Owners Announced ***

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  1. CHUNKNESS

    CHUNKNESS Commissioner Quality Simulation Football

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    As the title of this post indicates, we've come to our decision regarding who we'll be asking to continue with the reformatted league at the conclusion of the current 2016 season. The league will consist of the following 24 owners:

    Hulk_hagen_55
    AveryB
    Casino
    CSteud
    thafuture3886
    TwoTONS04
    saintsdave75
    CHUNKNESS
    pittrocks43
    Eazy E
    cry_havoc
    Phenom
    LtJustice
    Warhawk AKA dreadman
    Juan Valencia
    lboogie
    ThaBayouChef
    hoodiii
    Michael Overman
    dablakpope
    Gutcheck64
    PepperNY
    redlishus
    Broncos218


    Regretfully, we will be turning away 8 owners as a result. Those owners are:

    ferocious
    dmass
    javy0472
    coachmimz20
    NeuroticTruth
    Miki1369
    CaptMoe
    thoov08


    We appreciate what each of you have given to the league. If any of you want to continue playing Madden NFL 13 and are looking for another 32 man league to play in, Hard Knocks (HK) (premier league) and Virtual Football League (VFL) (non-premier league) are PS3 leagues hosted here on TSO. They are always looking for dedicated owners to participate. Also, you may want to contact saintsdave75 and inquire if there are any openings in theOnline Madden Football League (OMFL).

    Thanks for your patience and understanding regarding our decision. Good luck to everyone!

    ~Doug
     
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  2. CHUNKNESS

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    *Original post edited for tagging purposes. By no means was this post in any particular order of preference. Rather, it was first name alphabetical.
     
  3. Miki1369

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    Wow... I guess it is what it is...
     
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  4. coachmimz20

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    well that kind of sucks... considering my win/loss record against player and how legit i play.
     
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  5. Miki1369

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    I was not going to say anything but i cant kept quiet here.. Cuz im really pissed the fuck off...

    I want to start by saying that i would not want back in the league even if i was asked right now, but i think we all deserve at least a small explaination as to what went into the selecting critiria to be one of the lucky 24. I have nothing against any of the guys that were select but i do see that there are a few new guys that have not been around as long as some of the guys that were left out.

    If Doug or Eddie or Jim think that we dont need an explaination then that says enough of what they thought of all us all these years... Just food for thought... Just food for thought...
     
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  6. coachmimz20

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    3 years running over here. Only one or two hiccups along the way and pretty competitive with the Falcons last year and the Ravens this year.
     
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  7. CHUNKNESS

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    I have absolutely no problem with providing you gentlemen with an explanation. The transparency of the league not only applies to gameplay, but it applies to our decision making as well.

    It was not an easy process for us to select who we would have continue with the 24 man league format. Certainly tenure with the league was taken into consideration, but it was not the deciding factor. We looked at several aspects of team ownership responsibilities including, but not limited to; availability, consistency, compliance, dependability, accountability, and receptivity. The reason(s) which we decided to move forward without some of you are as follows:


    ferocious
    Alonso, you bring forward great enthusiasm and a competitiveness to the league. We have always appreciated that. However, your follow through is not always there. Your history of scheduling issues with your opponents has led to simulations, and at times, altercations. Your availability has been sporadic at times which hasn't always been communicated the best. It's been an ongoing concern which we have addressed with you directly on multiple accounts. In addition, in the past we have revised gameplay and trade rules to account for some activities which you have been directly involved with. You complied with the changes, but weren't always receptive to the purpose behind them. With that said, we decided it would be the best option for you to be released.

    dmass
    Daryl, you have been with the league on-and-off for as long as I can remember. There have been some great rivalries both past and present. With family and now golf being priorities, we can tell your heart won't be into the league as much as we'd like. That is not a disrespect toward you whatsoever as we truly appreciate that. You have indicated yourself that your Madden days are numbered. We had determined that it was appropriate for you to be released.

    javy0472
    Javy, we all know what a fierce competitor you are. That dates back to the days of the UMFL. You are certainly a voice within the league. However, there have been times when that voice has been missed. More particularly, there have been a couple of games this year which you were a no-show and/or did not communicate a schedule to your opponent. As a result, we determined it would be best to proceed with having you released.

    coachmimz20
    Kris, you bring a competitive element to the table as well. We have never doubted that. Sometimes when you lose you have a tendency to complain about your opponent versus taking some time to let the game set in and accepting the loss. We cannot hold that against you, but it is a concern no less. The primary concern has always been your schedule; particularly with spring upon us and baseball season in full swing. You had even voiced that to me a few weeks ago, but opted to try to finish out the season and possibly continue. We praise you for that dedication because we know it takes time. However, being that you are on the West Coast, it makes timing things with your opponents even more difficult. Just for example, we played our game the other day at 1 AM my time which would be 2 AM for several of our East Coast opponents. It has been an issue with others and it will become more an more of an occurrence when you have baseball games and tournaments on the schedule. As a result, we have decided it is best to move forward and release you.

    NeuroticTruth
    Mike, as we discussed earlier it was a combination of things that led to your release. Obviously, your altercation with Kris last week and how you handled the situation didn't bode well. However, that wasn't the primary reason. It was more a matter of you already being involved with a Premier league on the site. You have that to participate in. Also, your tenure with the league was the shortest compared to the other 31, so that made you an odd man out so to speak. We're not saying that you wouldn't be able to contribute as a new league member, because obviously given your history with TSO you can. But it leaves the other guys less opportunity in the community where you are already more involved.

    Miki1369
    Mike, you are another member of the league who has been with us for a very long time. You have always brought enthusiasm to the league. I, personally, know you are a good person and I mean that with utmost sincerity. However, there have been times that we have felt that you have taken advantage of the league. You may not have broken any rules literally, but we have been forced to create rules in order to prevent any future situations created by you from occurring. That coupled with poor reception to constructive criticism has led us to believe that our vision for the league isn't always the same. We're certainly not saying you have to agree with everything we say or do, but it is apparent that the majority of our concerns are not accepted or are misunderstood. As a result, we have decided to release you from your duties.

    CaptMoe
    Moe, we welcomed you back to the league knowing that you have dedication. We have never questioned that. However, you have been unable to separate yourself from enjoying the game versus critiquing a majority of each owner's gameplay. We appreciate hearing legitimate concerns about something that may have been questionable during a game; particularly when there is a pattern. The issue is that it has become a common occurrence following your games which has led to much animosity between you and your fellow league members. For that reason we have decided that it would be best to release you.

    thoov08
    Taylor, you have been a great addition to the league this year. Obviously your schedule will no longer allow you to participate in the league. As a result, you have stepped down.


    LtJustice
    redlishus
    CSteud
    hoodiii
    CaptMoe
    Juan Valencia
    thoov08
    Warhawk AKA dreadman
    dablakpope
    Casino
    saintsdave75
    ThaBayouChef
    Hulk_hagen_55
    coachmimz20
    thafuture3886
    Phenom
    PepperNY
    javy0472
    Gutcheck64
    Miki1369
    ferocious
    TwoTONS04
    CHUNKNESS
    cry_havoc
    Eazy E
    pittrocks43
    Michael Overman
    Broncos218
    dmass
    AveryB
    lboogie
    NeuroticTruth
     
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  8. CHUNKNESS

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  9. dmass

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    I appreciate the explanation and I would rather cut ties now. I dont see any reason to drag things out. Definitely takes time out of my schedule when I can be doing work shit, schoolwork, family, and/or golf.
     
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  10. CHUNKNESS

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    All good Daryl. Good luck with your future endeavors!
     
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    Well i will agree to disagree with the statement put forward by the league. Stated above you mentioned i had missed a couple of games... that's inaccurate i missed one game and i had a personal issue which i will agree its not an excuse.Secondly you mentioned you missed my voice at times( don't know what that means but i guess its another excuse to dismiss me). I think i have been active (voice) in this league but i guess not enough as guys that made the list which hardly posted (voice) anything. I personally think i been active (voice) scheduling games , accommodating to others schedules ( missed 1 gm) and being respectful to others. But since you guys made your decision there's not point for me to continue the rest of this season as of today i resign from the league. I want to thank all in this league ......u guys have been awesome..... including the ones that made the decision to dismiss me.

    stay safe and good luck to all

    god bless all

    p.s. please give pope sim win

    p.s. hey daryl (chargers) it looks like ur going to win the division ....:) ...well deserved buddy i wish you luck and represent the AFC West......i would tell you that i will get you next season but as you can see i wont be here ...lol
     
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  12. Miki1369

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    I like Javy and Daryl, would like to cut ties now, i don't see the point in playing my last game (Chargers already clinched the division and im not affecting any playoffs seeding for anyone else on the league), However, before i do... i would like to set the record str8 regarding the statements/explanation given for my dismissal from this great league:

    Statement/Reason #1
    "we have felt that you have taken advantage of the league."
    The only thing i could think of that i did to deserve such statement was that i signed QB Drew Brees to a 7 year contract in FA, now i was told that i offered to many years (which at the time it was not against the rules). My response at the time was u can ask the other guys that big on him if its cool for me to keep him, if not we could re-bid on him. It was decided that i could keep him and the rule for 3 years was implemented.

    Statement/Reason #2
    "Poor reception to constructive criticism"
    Again the only time i was criticized was when i played Javy, and i ended up throwing the ball more then i should have; however, at the time i did not feel like the criticism was merited cuz it was a hell of a game, and in no way was i trying to cheat or disrespect my opponent.

    Again, just wanted to give my thoughts on the reasons for my dismissal, at the end what i think is, that 8 had to go and i for what ever reason ended up being one of them. A decision was made and we continue as if nothing happened...

    Sometimes we all have to remind our self that this is just a video game, something to pass the time and get away from the daily grins of life...

    I will miss playing the game, but what i will miss the most will be the interaction with a great group of guys, as well as the chess matches i had with all of you, specially the guys that i have known for a while, Curties, Daryl (chargers), Rod, James Y, Eddie, dreadhawk36, Lboogie_32, Pope, Hulk_Hagen_55, Doug...

    To all of you good luck with the league we all help make the best one around...

    Sincerely,
    Maykel AKA Miki
     
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    so... if i lived in shittown, NY there would not be an issue... FML
     
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    Also, I have tournaments year round (I live in California where rain is scarce) and I am at the last 6 weeks of the HS season , which means that I have been coaching with the HS season in full swing for about 3 months now. Do I feel slighted? Absolutely, especially when one of the reasons is the coast I live on. I would have felt better if you would have said that I complained too damn much (which I am certain in 3 years I have complained about 5 times). All in all it is what it is, as ridiculously stupid of a cliche as that is.

    I can sit back and Mother F each and every one of you who run this league, but why do that? I have warranted minimal contact with the "Commish" in the last 3 years because I play a clean game, and have usually been very flexible with my games (ask the numerous owners who would play at 9am EST on a saturday against me..) Why start a firestorm now?
     
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    I feel better now.
     
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    Well, if any of you feel animosity towards me because I questioned something in your gameplay, I apologize for that. This is a game and I would hope no one would take anything that happens in a game or that is said about a game personally. I took my share of beatings in the past 2 seasons and didn't have any issues with the majority of them. On other occasions where I had questions, Troy addressed them and it never went further than him. Not really sure who it is that feels animosity towards me but, I would appreciate it if you were man enough to reach out to me and tell me, in private of course, so that we can resolve it and put it behind us.

    Thanks again for the opportunity to rejoin the league. Please keep me in mind for the next Madden...
    CHUNKNESS
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    :( I can't hide the sorrow I feel for losing miki, javy,d-mass and moe.people don't understand that we have been playing together for almost 10yrs so to me its like losing family.I have played both miki,moe and javy and had some of the funnest games of the season not to gmention easy to get games in with.most times not even having to go to the forum.I dint get a chance to play d-mass this season but he was the commish in the "U"when I 1st started and will bee missed along with moe from the U.I feel that U vets are still the backbone of this league and play with great integrity and I will miss all of you guys and hope you come back in next years madden
     
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    javy. You are classy until the very end. And I'm gonna miss u broi hope u come back next year because we need classy guys like u in this league
     
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    Thanks Rod that means a lot to me. I wish you well
     
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    Thanks Rod. It's always a battle when we face each other...
     

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