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Discussion in 'Rookie Symposium' started by RRAHx2, Feb 1, 2013.

  1. RRAHx2

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    Hey guys, here's another thread that will be stickied in our forums. I noticed we have a very wide variety of skill level in this league. Some guys have been playing for over 10 years, while others are just beginning this season. In an effort to help the new guys out, or just plain talk football strategy, post ANY strategy questions or tips you have. Need help learning stick skills? Or don't understand what "Bump-N-Run" is? This is the place to find out!


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  2. mmorgan184

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    Great thread.
     
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  3. xassassin4lifex

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    Cool idea!
     
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  4. Elemnt

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    I'm ready!
     
  5. MofoJones

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    Tip from New Orleans Saints..... Dont have a roster like ours THE END!
     
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  7. Aspect1

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    My first 3 games I was murdered by the hit-stick, I cant use it to save my life. Any advice??
     
  8. MofoJones

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    I suggest dont use hit stick unless time appropriate. Make sure you get a good angle and even close on the ballcarrier before using X or just simply try and run through the ball carrier. Otherwise hit stick will cause you to miss SEVERAL tackles
     
  9. Aspect1

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    Ok thanks, what causes more fumbles up or down on stick?
     
  10. RRAHx2

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    I rarely if ever use the hit stick. It is WAAAAY too easy to whiff. I honestly just run into the guy to tackle him. Or if I'm in pursuit I will dive and tackle, or at least trip him up. I will only use hit stick when I am SURE I will connect.. like on a crossing route or shen I meet the RB in the hole.
     
  11. Elemnt

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    Anyone else feel the strip ball button is useless this year?
     
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  12. RRAHx2

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    I have only seen it get me one actual strip this season. And I was dam surprised when it happened.
     
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    I use the strip when I have a lot of other defenders around me. It works when running backs are just breaking through the line of scrimmage and on kick-offs.
     
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    Well I can tell u this the Broncos and Chiefs owners have it on lock!! What is the strip button by the way? Lol
     
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    RB is the strip button
     
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    1,35 :cool:
     
  17. Elemnt

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    Damn man thats great editing props.
     
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  18. RRAHx2

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    Heres something we can use to get the strategical juices flowing.

    For this play:
    d-a-Buccaneers-43_stack_02.jpg


    What is a good situation to run this play?
    What is a bad situation to run this play?
    What personnel group would this match up well against?
    What personnel group would NOT match up well?
    For passing plays, where are the weak spots in the secondary?
    What routes would work well against this play?
    What type of running plays would do well vs this play?
     
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    What is a good situation to run this play?
    What is a bad situation to run this play?
    What personnel group would this match up well against?
    What personnel group would NOT match up well?
    For passing plays, where are the weak spots in the secondary?
    What routes would work well against this play?
    What type of running plays would do well vs this play?
    What is a good situation to run this play?
    - B gap runs

    What is a bad situation to run this play?
    - I feel like just about any other time with my personnel unless you have smoking fast OLB's

    What personnel group would this match up well against?
    - slow RB's with lower ranked Guards

    What personnel group would NOT match up well?
    - slow LB's on D without block shed or fast rb's who can bounce it outside

    For passing plays, where are the weak spots in the secondary?
    - any quick slant or drags hitting the gap right when they come off the bumb but before the MLB can cover. If the MLB is manned up with the HB and the HB isn't blocking (say on a wheel route or flat route) the opposite side slant should be wide open.
     
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  20. Elemnt

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    looking forward to other's responses
     
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    Curious, why the "opposite side slant" as the HB? How does the side the HB is on affect man coverage?
     
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    If rb is in a route to the right, mlb runs after him if the slant grts bumped funky timing or multiple ways it could go down now that LB with awareness or if usered can take it to the house. I frequently man cover the rb until the players style shines through.
     
  23. xassassin4lifex

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    Ok...gotcha!
     
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    What is a good situation to run this play?

    Short yardage, looking to stop a running play to the edges primarily.

    What is a bad situation to run this play?

    Against any personnel where the offense is "spread" out w/ 3 or 4 WRs (or like NE, BAL, etc who may split their two TE's into the slots)

    What personnel group would this match up well against?

    Base personnel (1 TE, 2 RB, 2 WR)

    What personnel group would NOT match up well?

    See above re: spread personnel

    For passing plays, where are the weak spots in the secondary?

    Vertical or quick routes to the sidelines/middle. If you don't get any pressure, you're very exposed w/o a deep safety.

    What routes would work well against this play?

    Outside streaks or fade-go by the outside receivers. Short drags by TE's. Can also Slant, curl, out to the outside targets depending on press/release. If FB leaks to the flats he may be by himself.

    What type of running plays would do well vs this play?

    Possibly zone/off-tackle to the edges... but anything like a Power-O or trap play where there's pulling OL will probably be disrupted by the LBs shooting the gaps.
     
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  25. Snake Eyez

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    -A simple tip for defensive playcalling: Match the offense's personnel.

    Maybe it seems elementary, but a lot of ppl don't think about this stuff when calling defenses... especially if they just use the gameflow feature.

    "Base" personnel: 2 RB, 1 TE, 2 WR. (this is the traditional grouping of players through the modern history of football)

    vs. Base packages, you want to usually line-up your base defense (3-4, 4-3) because you'll be matching up LBs/SS vs. TE, LBs vs RBs, CBs vs. WRs, in coverage.

    It does not leave your base defense exposed to an obvious mis-match. (i.e. an OLB getting torched by a WR in the slot)

    Use your Nickel, Dime, and Quarter groups vs. 3WR (nickel), 4WR (dime/quarter), and 5WR (quarter/dime) so you have a cornerback to account for each WR the offense is lining up. It will again, keep you from having obvious mismatches in m2m coverage, and will help disguise your zone coverages better.

    -My other tip would be... know what your OLBs strengths are. Madden doesn't allow us yet to assign "Sam" (strongside) and "Will" (weakside) linebackers on our depth charts. ROLB and LOLB is misleading... for example, the offense, at least for sake of explaining formations, will usually have it's TE lined up on the offense's right side, next to the offensive RT. As the defense, the defense's "right" side is actually the offense's leftside (because they are facing each other on the field)... so for LOLB, I treat him as "Sam" because he would be lined up over the TE and for ROLB, I treat him as "Will" because he would be on the weakside (the uncovered offensive tackle, where there's no TE).

    When the offense breaks huddle, you can simply flip your defensive play (aubile+R2 I believe) to swap your LBs so they are on the proper side to match the TE's side.

    Sam and Will LBs have different responsibilities, so they may require diferent skill sets... Sam is going to be required to cover the TE more, especially when it comes to m2m. He may share that responsibility with your SS depending on the playcall, but whether you are in zone or m2m... he will be on that side at least lined up over or near the TE.

    The Will is on the weakside, so he may be more of a pass rusher off the edge (this is especially true in 3-4 defenses)... or a weakside zone defender (cov-2, cov-3 schemes).. but either way, you would expect him to play more in space, often pursuing from the backside on runs or blitzing.

    One last tidbit for flipping defenses, would be plays where slot CBs are blitzing... you gotta flip them to the proper side where the slot WRs/TEs are, or it's a give away based on their alignment... you can't trick the offense if the CB is lined up by himself and there's no illusion that he may drop into coverage.
     
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