New League Description & Rules

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  1. Archie Griffin

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    New League Description & Rules

    Read them over and post an questions here. Please do this, because I plan to be unbending about violations, and I don't want anyone getting all uptight about it.
     
  2. Shaun Mason

    Shaun Mason Somebody you used to know.

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    The first question that comes to mind for me is this:

    As Army, I will probably always run the fleXbox One. Because of this system being somewhat different I will have different requirements than a pro-style team. What are the rules about using a RB at FB? How about changing recruiting RB to FB in the offseason?

    You all know me well enough to know I won't be putting a 5'8" 165 lb HB to FB, but if I somehow get a 6'0" 240 HB, I would like the option of putting him at FB.

    Also, I have a HUGE WR for one year (6'10" 285). He was a LT IRL and got moved to WR in the offseason. He may start for blocking reasons, and I would also be interested in using him as my second TE. He has 75ish speed. Any concerns with this?
     
  3. JOEDESIGNS

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    The rules sound right on and are pretty much the same for us older guys except for the recruiting rule. My only concern is I'm still deciding my playbook and should I use the fleXbox One, my HB's have great hands and since their are 3 of them and two TE's or WR's they would catch alot coming out of the backfield. After reading the rules, I think there will have to be an understanding about throwing to HB's for the guys running the fleXbox One.
     
  4. jmillhimes

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    Im all good for everything. Same goes for GT though. They do 90% run plays. We do have some big WR's so I dont see an issue with passing.


    One problem I do want to address and Amp this is NOT at you. Ive seen in three other leagues how teams are all switching to the FleXbox One Options. Will it really be fun playing against teams that all use the FleXbox One? I think when teams make switches like this, it takes away from the atmosphere and Reality.
     
  5. Shaun Mason

    Shaun Mason Somebody you used to know.

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    IMO you won't be passing THAT much out of the flex. They may have 30-40 catches max.

    If you are running the spread out of the fleXbox One, then maybe more.:)
     
  6. Shaun Mason

    Shaun Mason Somebody you used to know.

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    Not sure where I stand on this...

    Guess you could say the same thing about most playbooks, like the Pistol or Wildcat, etc.

    You really have to go for broke in this game, you can't add a flex formation and keep your others. If people want to give up passing and run the flex, that's up to them.

    I am running the flex because:
    1) Army already does
    2) I think it give me an edge with inferior talent.
     
  7. DatNDaz

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    A question and a comment:

    -What is the purpose of the rule/suggestion that we must start the highest ranked OVR at each position? Is it to avoid people plugging in speed guys (72 OVR, 95 spd vs 86 OVR, 90 spd)? Just curious.

    -In the recruiting example you mention that you have 15 seniors leaving, but you might also want to note that you're starting with a full 70 man roster. Or maybe say you have 68 players on the roster and 13 seniors leaving.
     
  8. jmillhimes

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    I can understand it to a point. I guess I just fear that teams will go alittle to far with changing playbooks. Example...Texas Tech goes to the FleXbox One. I say run with the playbook you have at your school but Thats just an opinion
     
  9. DatNDaz

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    I'm with you on this. I don't like the idea of completely unrealistic changes in style. Although I've never run with ND's playbook, because I don't think it really looks like what they run in real life. But I definitely always pick one that is in the same general style.
     
  10. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    Air Force and Baylor's playbooks have some fleXbox One as well as some shotgun spread formations, so you can have both.

    I have a few questions about the rules. I'm surprised that there were this many replies without anyone asking about these.

    >>Substitutions: The OFFL expects users to keep their rosters together as they would be in real life. Keep players in their positions. The OFFL is open to individualized situations. If you have a question, contact your commissioner.<<

    My kicker is rated 78 OVR and has a very, very weak leg (his kickoffs are lucky to make it to the 5 yard line with the default, super powered kicking slider). My punter is rated 90 as a kicker who kicks the ball out of the back of the end zone with the default kicking slider. Is there a problem with me playing my punter as both my kicker and kickoff specialist? I would imagine that once we adjust the kickoff slider, my kicker would be lucky to get the ball to the 15 yard line while my punter would be booting it to the goal line. Certainly there have been teams that had 1 guy both kick FGs and punts.

    >>Starting Lineups: The best players (overall) should be your starters. If you must start a lesser player (overall) to fit your system that will be allowed but no flip-flopping of the rules in this situation to fit each game.<<

    Is there at least some leeway with this? IE. I have an 83 QB and an 80 QB. I think I should have the choice to start whomever I want, especially if one isn't playing as well as I'd like. Last year, Michigan rotated QBs from game to game (and within the games) trying to find one that worked. I'd like to do the same. I also am not sure of the reasoning behind this rule.

    >>No Huddle: Can be used any time in the 2nd half when you are trailing considerably (14+) or when it's late in game (at least the 4th QTR) when you are trailing (1+) or need to score to break a tie. It is never allowed after an incompletion.<<

    I'm sure this is just an oversight, but surely we can call no huddle at the end of the 1st half, regardless of score right?
     
  11. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    I don't agree with this. For starters, as Daz said, you certainly shouldn't need to use your school's playbook. There are a lot of similar playbooks out there with the same feel.

    Also, I think we should be able to use whatever playbook we want. We're all considering ourselves as the "coaches" of our teams. At least a few of us have held press conferences on our blogs and we will be bringing in our playbook with us. A very perfect, real, and recent example is your GT jackets. Their playbook last year was worlds different than the one from before, and this is because the new coach brought his system with him. Michigan's playbook from last year was also completely different from anything they've ever used before. I'm sure there's a bunch of examples like this out there in real college football.

    Other fairly recent examples from the Big 10 alone are Northwestern, Penn State (a national powerhouse), Indiana, Illinois, etc.
     
  12. JOEDESIGNS

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    No man, it's a great question (y) and the answer is no. I love the fleXbox One because it's so fun to work with but more than likely I'll be in the FSU, UF, or Miami playbook. FSU won't EVER, EVER, EVER run the triple option. This is a sim league and I'll try to keep it that way and I'm sure most other guys will as well.
     
  13. jmillhimes

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    Definate Amp. That's where Im going. Its fine to switch to something alittle more Comfortable but when you Play GT, you think Option or run 90%. I mean, I have 20 pass plays to use but Im not switching to Texas Tech's playbook to beat you. That's why I wanted to ask about playbooks. I see leagues that have already started where guys are switching playbooks by the game. I am all about the SIM feel. I think if you let teams choose whatever playbook they want, it can lead to some issues...Just a thought

    Jello,

    GT ran the balance Option attack before they started a triple option attack. Teams do change here and there.
     
  14. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    As I said, I don't think it's any more unrealistic than GT and Michigan's changes last year (both of which were just as extreme as anything we could do in game). I didn't, however, think that people would be changing playbooks from game to game. I would certainly say that we need to choose a playbook and stick with that. Going with GT's playbook against a weak run defense and then using TTU's playbook the next week against a weak pass defense would be pretty bush league and I would guess it's beneath those of us in this league.

    Also, of course, everything I'm saying is just my opinion as well, and I'll roll with whatever the commish decides (especially since I think we'll both end up choosing the same playbook :D). And I don't think we need to worry about him forcing everyone to use their own playbook because aOSU's playbook was clearly not designed with Pryor in mind. ;)

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    And just FYI, my playbook (Auburn's) is similar to Michigan's so I'm not really defending myself so much as I'm trying to defend someone like FSU to choose the fleXbox One or GT to change to TTU's playbook if that's what they want. I personally, see no problem with this, given the recent changes in the real world of college football.
     
  15. Archie Griffin

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    A few things:

    No huddle at the end of the first half is fine. I cut that sentence out of the rules because I went over the max character count for the thread. I cut about a quarter of what was there bofore, just to make it fit. That was one of the cuts.

    Player changes are fine. Just post them, and address any league concerns. For example, if you want to make a new HB a FB, he should be of the power back variety, not the speed guys, even if he's a good sized speed guy. Inside runners are power backs.

    Throwing to the HB. The abuse of this last year was bad early, and then it cleaned up later. I have a back (Brandon Saine = 2nd string) who will probably transfer if he doesn't get the ball. Looking at him, his pass catch ratings are better than many of my receivers (81 CTH is huge for a RB - they're usually in the sixties or low seventies). Obviously, he is set up for a change to WR next year, like Stoneburner (WR) was set up to change to TE, which is what he now is. Saine will catch balls out of the backfield. It will be a part of my gameplan. I run a split back, 3WR set, and occasionally audible to go four wide out of it. Saine will move to the near slot in these instances. But he will not catch 8-10 balls a game, and he certainly won't catch 15-17, like guys were doing last year (before we addressed it). Do what you want, but keep it sim. HB's catch passes. They just don't catch all of them.

    FleXbox One - This is the new hotness, and everyone wants to run it. I don't want to play against it every week, but you guys are free to do whatever you want. You're the coach, and you control the style your team plays. If we discover that the new stuff has issues or gimmicky plays (like the old QB sneak) we'll address that. Like any new offense, it will have its day, and then the defenses will catch up. You best believe I'll find a way to stop it :)

    AG
     
  16. Archie Griffin

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    By the way, I'm sticking with Spurrier's playbook. South Carolina.
     
  17. jmillhimes

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    My Triple Option has no QB Sneak.....damn it(n)
     
  18. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    About the only thing I like about that playbook is the weird formation with 3 O-lineman by the QB and the 2 tackles spread out wide in front of the WRs. It just looks cool.

    As I said, I've played about 45 games online and I've only faced the fleXbox One 3 times (which is surprising as I figured tons of people would want to try it out) and I got completely worked in all 3 games since I don't have any experience against it (and I think my 3-3-5 is just too small up front to handle it). Maybe I should consider the 4-2-5, but I don't really like the plays in that playbook (probably because I don't know them).

    The worst one was when played some guy who was using Texas. He was Georgia Tech's playbook and I was thoroughly impressed. He played in the fleXbox One all game and I started out trying like hell to stop the run. The entire game he called PA passes (maybe it was the same one and it was a money play, I'm not sure) and burning me. After a few (and only a few) of those, I called pass defenses and was keying on the pass. He continued to burn me with PA passes, even when I finally said "screw it" and went to my 3-2-6 dime defense. He still destroyed me with PA passes the entire game (I lost 61-17). That was the last thing I expected from a fleXbox One playbook. To get destroyed by the run I could understand. To be destroyed by passes from the fleXbox One (even if it was Colt McCoy under center) against straight up pass defenses was impressive.
     
  19. Archie Griffin

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    A guy who can make the right reads is just a killer, just like the real thing. PA has been an issue in the past, because even if you knew it was coming, the PA fake still worked. Not sure if it's still an issue.

    And the 3-3-5, from what I've heard, can be run on. At least that's what I would try to do to it. I tried it out once, but I couldn't make it work.
     
  20. Razcalking1978

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    Recruiting question - do we have to stay at or under our allowed scholarships at all times, or are we just talking about committed recruits in the end?
     
  21. Shaun Mason

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    I've always assumed end result.
     

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