New Waiver Process

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  1. Danthraxxx

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    ***TMFL tag not playing nice so I have posted this in two spots now, so everyone should be aware***



    Just wanted to update the league on the change in waiver format for the upcoming season on TMFL.

    Going forward the process will be similar but some key differences that I will cover now, there is also an explanation of how the order & claims works. If any of this is unclear please PM myself or antcap24 for clarity.


    1st big change is how the process of making a claim will work. Going forward when making a claim you will PM myself and AntCap, not either or but both and if we are both not in the PM it will not be valid. Do not post in the waiver order list; this is just the list for viewing your order position. This way the process is less likely to have cherry picking going on or the need to edit your post before you are SOL on your claim.

    2nd change is that we will now require the players to be ordered in preference, and number in preference of player in that position. For example, if you need a LG but are concerned your first choice will be taken list the two LG’s side by side , ordered 1-2 or A-B. When this is done we will reply back with your PM that you will need to select a different player if said two players are already claimed before you posted. We will be as pro-active as possible in this process.


    The waiver order and claims will work as follows :

    Start the order as the draft order from the previous year. The person who drafts first will have the first spot in the waiver wire, second draft pick has second spot, etc..

    As people make their picks, they move to the back of the line. For instance, take this 5 man league: A,B,C,D,E.

    Draft order: A,B,C,D,E
    Waiver Wire order: A,B,C,D,E

    In week one, Team B and D pick up free agents off of waivers. So the new waiver order for the following week would be A,C,E,B,D. Notice that team B stays ahead of team D because they both took players in the same week. The order by which they posted on the forum has no bearing whatsoever on the waiver wire - if two users claim players off of waivers in the same week, the order in regards to those users will not change given that they take the same number of unique players.

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    Lets go back to the original waiver wire order: A,B,C,D,E - for simplicity's sake. Now, there was a pair of caveats in my last example: given that they take the same number of unique players. We know that often times in Week one, users will claim multiple players off of waivers to try and make their roster as complete as possible. Also in Week one, multiple users will try to claim the same player. Lets first look at a situation where multiple players are taken, but they are all unique. Say A claims Player 1 and Player 2; B claims Player 3, Player 4, and Player 5, and C claims player 6:

    Since A is first, he gets his first choice and Player 1 goes to him. A will then move to the back end of the waiver wire. (Waiver Wire: B,C,D,E,A)
    User B is now at the front of the waiver wire, and receives his claim on Player 3. B moves to the back of the waiver wire (Waiver Wire: C,D,E,A,B)
    Same process for user C. C receives player 6 (Waiver Wire: D,E,A,B,C)
    Since D and E don't have any claims, we are back to A. A will receive his second claim and once again move back. (Waiver Wire, D,E,B,A,C)
    B is now up, and receives his claim on player 4 (Waiver Wire: D,E,A,C,B)
    Lastly, B is the only remaining player with a claim remaining, so he receives player 5 and stays in back of the Waiver Wire (Waiver Wire to begin the next week: D,E,A,C,B)

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    If two or more users claim the same player, the user highest on the waiver wire will receive him. So, let's do one final example tying everything together. Again, start from the original Waiver Wire (A,B,C,D,E)
    A - Claims Player 2, Player 4
    D - Claims Player 1, Player 5, Player 7
    E - Claims Player 1, Player 2, Player 3, Player 6
    B - Claims Player 3, Player 8
    C - Claims Player 1

    Remember, the order in which the claims are made does not matter. Start from the waiver wire:
    A Claims Player 2 (Waiver Wire: B,C,D,E,A)
    B Claims Player 3 (Waiver Wire: C,D,E,A,B)
    C Claims Player 1 (Waiver Wire: D,E,A,B,C)
    D Claims Player 5, because he was the next player on his list and Player 1 went to C (Waiver Wire: E,A,B,C,D)
    E Claims Player 6, because he is the top remaining choice available for E (Waiver Wire: A,B,C,D,E)
    A Claims Player 4 (Waiver Wire: B,C,D,E,A)
    B Claims Player 8 (Waiver Wire: C,D,E,A,B)
    D Claims Player 7, because C has made all it's claims and D is next on the Waiver Wire (Waiver Wire to begin the next week: C,E,A,B,D)




    With all of this said we feel this is the best way to improve this process in order to be fairer. There are a few things that you may be concerned with so I will address the two obvious ones now. Any other concerns please again PM myself or AntCap.


    1.What if I place my claim late because I was not able to earlier in the day ?
    Answer – There will be a cutoff time that I will update before we finish the off season this year. I need this time to work for both AntCap and myself.
    2. How do I know I will get update in enough time if my players are already claimed when I tried to claim them ?
    Answer – Ant & I will have a good excel list of players and who claimed who, this should allow us to know quickly that the players are not going to go to you and we will reply quickly to let you know.
     
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  2. The Richuation

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    Danthraxxx

    Remember, post draft if we immediately advance to week 1, many of the UDFA will vanish... after the draft, the file has to be left alone until the first round of free agents are processed AND PICKED UP. Then, the file can be advanced.

    So maybe, the schedule needs to be:

    Sunday Draft
    Waiver Claims due by 10pm Sunday
    Waivers Processed 8am Monday
    Waiver Pickups 8am - 10pm Monday
    Advance to Week 1 Monday @ 10pm
     
  3. Raidernation

    Raidernation I can show you better than I can tell you

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    Danthraxxx in the event I (A) make a claim and don't get the player do I remain at the top or at the back because I made the claim.

    A,B,C,D,E OR
    B,C,D,E,A ?
     
  4. Danthraxxx

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    If you claim a player and do not get or select a replacement your waiver order will not be effected next advance.
     
  5. Raidernation

    Raidernation I can show you better than I can tell you

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    Actually meant in the case of me not getting one or even two options, besides the roster fill I don't make any claims, so was wondering if that would put me on the back or recycled to the top for the upcoming weeks.
     
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    You will not move down the list if you do not pick up a player , I am not sure how to make that any more clear.


    I did not change the emergency process of picking up the worst player at said position if you can't play per not having enough on the roster. That player is then cut when you file a real waiver claim there after, and that claimed player then effects your order. I assumed this scenario did not need to be explained, and hopefully would be avoided.
     
  7. Raidernation

    Raidernation I can show you better than I can tell you

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    I'm not a dumbass, what wasn't clear is whether submitting a claim would effect the order. I read fine print, submitting and receiving and submitting and not receiving are two different things. Is that clear? Either way I'm good, like I said I don't make claims often. I figured I'd ask the question to be certain.
     
  8. Raidernation

    Raidernation I can show you better than I can tell you

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    Seems someone corrected it for you ...... nice.
     
  9. dakota7

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    Just curious, do you intend to publicly announce players awarded or just through the pms?
     
  10. Danthraxxx

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    I will post list of teams and players claimed publicly
     
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  12. Danthraxxx

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    Just cause I havent replied yet does not mean I wont :) lol


    Sadly I am getting killed at work ATM so I can't give this my full attention until 10pm or so
     
  13. The Richuation

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    No problem. He holds the file, so just making sure it's out there
     
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  14. HotRod

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    Danthraxxx

    I'm going to miss the draft tomorrow but have a couple of guys I'd like to put waiver claims in for, should I PM you and Ant now or wait until tomorrow night?
     
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    let me check , I feel your pain but I don't want to open pandoras box either ..... hold please
     
  16. I Peench

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    If you're missing the draft and feel like dishing picks, let me know. I can give you players or picks next year. CPU drafts like :doodie:
     
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  17. I Peench

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    This looks good Dan
     
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  18. HotRod

    HotRod You ain't bout dat life!

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    I only have 5th-7th round picks left
     
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    oh he needs dem' shits lol
     
  20. HotRod

    HotRod You ain't bout dat life!

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    Ok I'll check back with you come draft time. Thanks.
     
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    if I do not have an answer for you at some point send it before you have no chance to, just include AntCap in the PM. It is not as if I will put you at top of waiver, so it will not effect anyone else. I just want to get the OK from Shaunarito before I misinform you.

    Plus I don't want 8 waiver claims coming in early , TMFL members at times have not shown great restraint in the past ;)
     
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    @TMFL this has been approved and will be the process tonight after the draft.
     
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    after the draft we will post the draft order



    Waiver Claims due by midnight
    Waivers Processed 10am Thursday for week 1
     
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  24. The Richuation

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    When do we advance to Week 1? Thursday @ 10pm?
     
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