Offensive Balance

Discussion in 'The Experience' started by GoGators, Dec 22, 2011.

  1. GoGators

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    Bored again as the wife is prepping her crafty christmas gift ideas and I'm on a bye week, I figured I'd check the stats. I noticed something interesting. It's obvious we like to run the ball as the top yardage HB's are primarily all users, but I noticed you never see any user WR's at the top of the charts. So I looked at the stats and found the following:

    Out of 12 users, only 4 are averaging 200 yards per game passing or more.

    Michigan
    Michigan St
    Ole Miss
    Washington

    I thought that was pretty incredible. 200 yards is a pretty small number in today's football stats so I figured we'd at least have half to 75% over that mark but boy was I wrong. Only 33% of users are getting more than 200 yards through the air per game. Pretty incredible really.
     
  2. JCspartan2

    JCspartan2 Sparty Party

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    Good grab! I bet I was under that last year, but this years team has forced me to put it up more.
     
  3. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    You've played with me long enough to know that I'd run the ball every down if I could. In the previous years I've had to throw more than I'd like, but now I've got the stable of backs I want and a developing run blocking line (I'll start the inferior overall/better run blocking O-linemen over the better overall/worse run blocking guys each and every time) so I don't have to pass as often as I used to (as you can tell by my 1.55 rushing yards/passing yards ratio). How about my 23:9 rushing TD: passing TD ratio?

    One thing I've been keeping an eye on was that until this week, the top 2 rushing user offenses were Northwestern and ASU! The 2 spread teams!
     
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  4. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    Also, I think part of this is that a lot of you have troubles passing the ball so instead you do what's easiest. As a pro style attack, running is really easy so they do that. With me, it's not an issue of having trouble passing it (my QB leads the nation in QBR), but just me doing what I enjoy.
     
  5. GoGators

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    Yeah, I wouldn't expect the 200+ from you as your offensive philosophy is to run the ball pretty much all the time. The rest of us however are pretty balanced in our schemes and I say that taking into consideration last year (`11 title) too. I just looked up on ESPN and out of 120 teams, 80 of them averaged 200+ passing per game. That's 66% so I'd think we'd be closer to that as a group. I'm not saying there's anything wrong with it, I just found it interesting.
     
  6. GoGators

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    That's a good point.

    Here's a quasi scouting report for users going forward:

    Team Run vs Total Plays = % of runs called

    Arizona 191 / 309 = 62%
    ASU 264 / 352 = 75%
    Georgia 218 / 136 = 62%
    LSU 189 / 324 = 58%
    Michigan 223 / 412 = 54%
    MSU 194 / 415 = 47%
    NU 299 / 487 = 61%
    Ole Miss 187 / 325 = 58%
    Stanford 268 / 381 = 70%
    Tenn 222 / 396 = 56%
    Wash 199 / 458 = 43%
    Wisc 254 / 386 = 66%

    Note, in these numbers sacks count as runs so these numbers are inflated but the most any team has been sacked is 25x and that's MSU so that shouldn't have too big of an impact, so say a max deviation of 5%.
     
  7. JCspartan2

    JCspartan2 Sparty Party

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    Hahaha of course it was me....
     
  8. dakota7

    dakota7 Former Blue Chip Recruit

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    Against the cpu, I usually don't pass very much in the second half........just running the ball to keep the clock running. (because I'm already up by 3 touchdowns). Without looking, are the 4 teams averaging over 200 yards per game the 4 teams with the worst user records. (which would mean they are passing later in the game, attempting to mount a comeback)??
     
  9. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    WOOT!

    1st place for ASU!

    Suck on that Stanford with your meager 70%!
     
  10. UofCWildcat

    UofCWildcat Bear Down!

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    Trust me bro. I wanna pass/run ratio of 60/40 or even 70/30 at times. I have the receivers who will catch everything but with the amazing ability of Ka'Deem Carey being able to break long runs like he does it's hard not to hand the ball off to him... Plus if you add my plethora of sacks i give up it inflates it even more
     
  11. dakota7

    dakota7 Former Blue Chip Recruit

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    So even if I run a pro style attack, I'm allowed to enjoy running the ball too, right?
     
  12. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    Of course. I'd consider you in the "run every time if I could" style of play with me.
     
  13. dakota7

    dakota7 Former Blue Chip Recruit

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    Thank you.
     
  14. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    Also, I think your QB is one of the highest in QBR too so clearly you don't have troubles passing the ball either.
     
  15. dakota7

    dakota7 Former Blue Chip Recruit

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    I have a pretty awesome dual threat QB, not sure if you've checked my roster out at all. So I've been trying to run some zone reads etc with him, and I have to agree that style of offense is much more difficult. I feel like I can make the right read and the amazingly athletic 275lb defensive end can still change directions on a dime and blow up my play. (the same argument GoGators made in the scores thread) Very frustrating.
     
  16. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    I've been very, very shocked by how many coaches that I figured were pro style guys have been signing scramblers. UGA, Stanford, Wisconsin, Ole Miss, MSU, Michigan. I know that I wouldn't even give a pocket passer the time of day, even if he was the #1 recruit in the land, from AZ, and had me #1 on his list, so I'm really shocked to see how just about everyone is signing scramblers.
     
  17. dakota7

    dakota7 Former Blue Chip Recruit

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    Scramblers can play pro style, unlike a pocket passer who is only viable as a passer... (obviously) I hate the statue guys, tbh.
     
  18. UofCWildcat

    UofCWildcat Bear Down!

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    I'd wrap that SOB up in a heart beat.
     
  19. JCspartan2

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    Gay
     
  20. UofCWildcat

    UofCWildcat Bear Down!

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    Fuck you bro! You got do your thing in Sparty-ville. We're gonna go chuck the ball 40-45 times a game and you can just put your tail between your legs and run the damn ball.
     
  21. blLL flo

    blLL flo BTFU!

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    Murray was a scrambling QB, but I think he was the best QB interested in me at the time in year 1. I run some pro style formations, but as you saw Murray still ran options out of those formations as well as the spread.

    Last year the QB I signed was listed as balanced and is more of the QB I like. He has a much better arm, but you will still have to respect his legs. Add to that the bad ass WRs that have been added to the roster in the last few years and the ball will definitely be in the air a lot more in Athens.
     
  22. jello1717

    jello1717 "Those who stay will be champions." -- Bo

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    I fixed it for ya.
    (y)
     
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  23. Masler

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    Always one step ahead aren't ya
     
  24. UofCWildcat

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    Thanks.... Ya fuck.
     
  25. Dwreck

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    To chime in on the scrambler QB thing, I have noticed that with only a few exceptions that the scramblers have just as good throw power/accuracy ratings as the pocket passers. Might as well take someone who can run too.
     

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