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Discussion in 'PS4 FIFA 14 League' started by WingedHelmet, Dec 1, 2024.

  1. guayo10
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    Only way to do it is to use custom tactics, don't remember if that's illegal or the custom formations? Might be the formations no? Or both?

    Doesn't really eliminate them but it's a world difference when you change the tactics.

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    Custom formations banned due to over abuse in previous seasons
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    Oh ok so doing custom tactics will be fine? In that case Lou this should help out as the players stay back much more so the lob isn't as effective. Might have one or two that beat you but most would be won by your defense.
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    No I think he was saying we can't use custom tactics. Lol.
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    Tactics (provided you don't go full high press) are allowed. Formations are not.
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    Will it fix that issue? Or is that just a game glitch?
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    I don't think it will fix the auto move up issue, no
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    I have expressed my opinions on some of these rules in the league survey in the past (not too far past), hopefully some of you have read that already.

    I think the first rule is pretty simple and basic, "Don't be a douche".

    How do I know I'm a douche?
    If you play or have played seasons, you must have played against one. The guy that annoyed the shit out of you is the douche. If you've been successful at seasons, there's a good chance you've been one as well. If not a complete one, you've shown characteristics of one partially. Simply don't do it against your TSO mate (which means I can do it to Zikry since he's no one's mate :) ), unless you hate him with a passion for some weird reason.

    I've mentioned my feelings towards having to back up on offense. Personally, I think we should be able to fight for a ball that we just lost on offense. Otherwise, all the effort of build up (that I would think the community would prefer as the preferred play style [sim or whatever you call]) is ruined by a simple mistake and now you have to back up just to hope you can get the ball back on your half. Not to mention being victimized by the disadvantage of being caught up up front if your opponent exposes your open back with fast long balls.

    Basically I'm having difficulty understanding why I shouldn't be able to defend how I would defend in my own half in the event when I just lost the ball on the offensive corner. Now I would like to mention, there is a difference between pressuring like headless chicken the whole game, and pressuring at certain moments, just after losing a ball to avoid sudden threats. The difference between playing like a douche and not. I would really like the management to bring some flexibility to this area. And to help defining grey areas into a more definitive blackish and whitish, I have a proposal/suggestion.

    First of all, I must point out something important. Like guayo10 kind of mentioned, my proposal would apply to a manual controller schema. I don't think semi controls is ready for flexibilities that I'm dreaming of. So my proposal would only be valid in terms of curious to hear your opinion/approval/whatever you may call, in the case the league moves towards manual controls.

    If we are playing with manual controls, and people understand the definition of FIFA douche, I think basically a "give defense a breathing moment first" approach should be good enough.

    I would define that as,
    1. The defense taking over possession from offense through a dead ball (goal kicks, free kicks in defensive 1/3, throw ins in defensive 1/3). Let the defense take the kick, give them a few seconds to start play, don't put tackling high pressure unless they're taking too much time in defensive 1/3.
    2. The defense wins possession in live play in defensive 1/3, and makes a successful pass to a teammate within the defensive 1/3, or have possession for a few seconds and offense was not able to successfully win the ball back in an immediate attempt. At this point offense can chill and start returning to traditional defense.
    3. Additionally I would say no throw ins or freekicks shoud be aggressively covered/interrupted in the defensive 3/5ish (until a little past half way), but defend it as good as you can in your own defensive 2/5.

    Again, just a suggestion proposal that can be seen as a starting point. I must say some of the examples I see in the videos don't make any sense, like as soon as you somehow make a bad pass on offense you have to back out or if the defense made a bad pass coming out quick, you still have to gift it back situations.

    I agree with valid points made earlier, like playing it a little more realistic if you don't want to be punished. Like in that goal, I think you need to chase the ball that you dumped into space. And the defense should kick it out quick to give himself time to recover defensively (if it goes out).

    Anyways, I'm gonna watch the world cup game now, so I'll continue later.
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    Again, please don't take this like the new guy coming in and telling you what to do. Just a proposal and suggestion to express my opinions, and to see if that opinion happens to help management turn towards some changes for the better, if they agree it's for the better. If they don't they don't obviously. I wasn't going to mention in that way above, but since there has been a steamy discussion going on since yesterday here, I figured I could chip in to stir it :)
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    I got confused trying to convert 3/5 and 2/5 to 1/3. I stopped reading after that. Gave me a Hedache ha. Get it.
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    Sorry if I opened a can of worms on this topic, I just wanted some clarity so when I start playing I'm not breaking the rules.
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    Ha wasn't you, just some gameplay gray areas we have run into and twitch allows us to capture those moments to share for discussion.
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    I think this banter is great. Shows where gameplay issues vs engine are. Plus, I'm not attacking anyone. I hope the rest aren't. This helps us all get on the same page, which should be the goal anyway.
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    Anyone around for manual settings friendlies ?
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    Just as a heads up: I'm keeping track of all the stats and scores of the World Cup; just the new google sheets aren't formatted to be embedded on here just yet so that is why you can't see them
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    I obviously missed this little tete a tete on Friday, but I'm going to jump in this cesspool late:

    The thing is, it's a free ball until one player gains clear possession of it. Beshiktas first touches it at 16 seconds, and it's only a second later that Kasper "pressured" him. If he was button mashing during the sprint to the ball (as I certainly would have been doing in trying to win the foot race), it's entirely possible the actions of his player were a direct result of that. Blaza is exactly right - in this case, one-touch pass it to your keeper or boot it out of play; better to be safe than risk what we have here. Even with video evidence, you're going to have people arguing each side of it, and the end result is the goal stands and there's no clear violation of rules. If Beshiktas had the ball for another few seconds and Kasper was then pressuring him (trying to tackle the ball away), then a clear violation would have taken place. But this was basically bang-bang.

    It's a 50-50 and the margin for error is razor thin there. I've had the ball clipped from me when I reached it first, but we were neck and neck. I touched it once, and then he got it and fired. I could argue that I had possession from my one touch and he could argue that I'd just knocked it on and never gained possession, and both of us would be right, or neither of us would. The very definition of a gray area.

    It's a gray area that will never be resolved or agreed to. Where some players would back off, others wouldn't and wouldn't think anything wrong with their behavior. Part of the game is knowing your opponent, and if you don't, play it safe.
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    After all this discussion I understand that fighting for the ball , pulling jersey by smashing that circle button , pressuring in the box ( when defenders have the ball in front of them, but not fully have the control of the ball because his jersey is being pulled and being pressured) is ok.

    I understand that getting feisty with opponents' defender while trying to reach to the ball in front of that defender is ok.

    My defenders jersey starts being pulled on 12 seconds in to the video which my defender nor goalkeeper has no control of the ball obviously.

    Thanks guys. Sorry I started all this shit, but it's clarified after all .
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    Lighten up everybody!


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    And join the GroupMe discussion
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    You put it pretty well here. To me, there is a difference between possession and control. Like you said, if he makes one touch to the keeper or to another defender, I back off (or like to hope I would- I play a lot of seasons as I have no leagues at the moment so I know habits develop with that).

    Also, my point still stands that I thought Dempsey header was just nasty at the end of that video. :D
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    But my point is not about the goal. My point is your guy who was controlled by you in this case :) kept pulling my jersey trying to gain possession before my defender who was running in front of you.

    I just always thought that rule says not to do that.

    Great game after all buddy. I hope Dempsey scores 3 of those goals today against Ghana !
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    Nah, I'm ok with scrapping for possession on a free ball. I didn't like that u possessed ball then turned into the box before passing and there was still pressure. But why would u turn into box anyway??
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    I had my golie and a defender on that side to pass the ball. I couldn't manage to pass it right , since I was under pressure and being pulled I guess. I didn't want to kick it out to the corner, because corners are deadly like you can see what happened afterwards. I didn't want to turn to my left , because I thought he would tackle and get the ball.
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    Anyone around for a friendly ?

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