Redskins and Browns Deal

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  1. kdpnutter

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    WR Joshua Cribbs 81 29 years old B pot
    LE Tyrus Pound 70 ?? years old B pot
    DT Shaun Rogers 85 34 years old A pot

    for

    OLB Roddell Lewis 82 ?? years old A pot
    DT Ma'Ake Kemoeatu 68 35 years old C pot
    WR Carter Wallace 69 24 years old D pot

    With the departure of Big Albert in the middle the Redskins desperately need a big man in the middle for the 3-4 defense and Kemoeatu would be the starter at a 68 overall so Rogers is a huge upgrade. With already having Brian Orakpo as the rushing OLB and with the loss of Matt Roth the Browns were in big need help there. Lewis addresses that issue for the Browns, Cribbs gives the Redskins a legit deep threat WR that can also serve as the KR/PR. and Wallace can take a decent 4th WR role for the Browns. Kemoeatu takes the backup job to Ahtyba Rubin and gives a little bit of veteran prescence and Pound takes the 3-4 DE spot and has major upside over Vonnie Holliday and Kedric Golston.

    It has all the factors I think that you usually look for, a big upside for the CPU, with Pound and Cribbs and Rogers as we see with DT will be there another year or two and fills the biggest need they have for a big time 3-4 DT, and I give up some youth (Pound) and take on a lower older player (Kemoeatu) so I think it works but that's why we have the trade committee.
     
  2. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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    Declined. LB Lewis is going to be a stud. Give up a stud to get a stud.
     
  3. ChickenOfTheSea

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    Its a good balance of players and ages, but I have to agree with @Keller, you are blowing up their middle and replacing it with a DE they dont need. Cribbs is a slow ass mofo who is old. I dont know how the hell the browns got so damn old but your old ass team is old :)
     
  4. Keller

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    If you want a stud you gotta give up a stud. Look what the Rams are doing to get Mario Moss.
     
  5. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

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    Start over.

    Start with Alex Mack for Roddell Lewis and build from that.
     
  6. ChickenOfTheSea

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    I gotta look tonight, You guys have fried my brain on Trades.
     
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  8. ChickenOfTheSea

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    @kdpnutter

    I know you are scrambling to get this done B4 deadline, I'll try.

    Why Not Mack and Marcus Bernard for Roddell Lewis and Something?

    I think Rogers is in your real to sweeten and for cap? Honestly Rogers is prolly in his last year. and once you get 3x3 Its hard to be fair to you and the CPU because so many positions are now effected.

    Honestly, I would be interested to see how a trade of

    Browns
    C Mack
    LOLB Bernard
    DT Rogers

    For

    OLB Orakpo
    C Rabach

    would go.

    Lewis is so small for a 34 OLB isnt he? Now maybe I'm the only one who sees it that way, But seems to me, that Lewis would move to starter for Washington, you replace the depth, massively improve your OLB, you are apparently willing to scre yourself at Center, this way you would still have a body there, and Washington gets their one year DT.

    Keep in mind I'm just one vote :)
     
  9. Jmustang1968

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    I am of the opinion of letting the guys get the players they want, and as long as the cpu is getting well compensated then its good. I think in trade 2


    Option #2

    C Alex Mack 89 26 years old A potential
    DT Shaun Rogers 85 33 years old A potential
    CB Mike Adams 72 31 years old C potential

    for

    LOLB Roddell Lewis 82 23 years old A potential
    MLB Perry Riley 71 24 years old B potential
    DT Ma'Ake Kemoeatu 68 33 years old C potential

    the skins are getting a young good oline, an upgrade at DT, even though he is old, he will be a force for a year or 2 more
     
  10. JoHud

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    R.Lewis is a top 5 pick. No way I would approve the above trade if all he got was Lewis. No one in the league would make that trade if they were the redskins, and no way I would approve it. The Browns dump old players with big contracts and get one of the best line backers in the game.
     
  11. Jmustang1968

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    I liked the Lewis one better, but dont necessarily have a problem with this either...
     
  12. JoHud

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    Id still say no.

    You are right on saying they need a DT, but giving them a 77 ovr is really filling a need.

    It comes down to OLB Orakpo for Mack ultimatly. Your trying to get value out of your center which I dont have a problem with, but he is your only center. You will grab a stop gap, but improve an important position on defense big time. My question to you, is would you do this trade if you were the Redskins? I know I wouldn't.

    Just my take.
     
  13. kdpnutter

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    I'm trying here so any suggestions if you decline would be appreciated. I am all for constructive criticism on how to make the deal work if the most recent attempt doesn't work but looking at it I think it really works well.
     
  14. ChickenOfTheSea

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    OK. Can we settle on the trade we are all voting then vote it and be done? We've bounced around on this one so much, I'm not sure if you want feedback on 1,2,of 3 trades here.
     
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    I will go with the latest two

    A)

    C Alex Mack 89 26 years old A potential
    OLB Marcus Benard 78 27 years old B potential
    QB Colt McCoy 78 26 years old B potential

    for

    LOLB Brian Orakpo 91 27 years old A potential (or Roddell Lewis)
    MLB Perry Riley 71 26 years old B potential
    C Ethan Whiteside 64 26 years old C potential

    or

    B)

    C Alex Mack 89 overall 26 years old A potential
    DT Shaun Rogers 85 overall 34 years old A potential
    OLB Marcus Bernard 78 overall (26 or 27) years old B potential

    for

    OLB Brian Orakpo 91 overall 26 years old A potential
    MLB Perry Riley 71 overall 26 years old B potential


    Giving some different options. But these are the only two I would like feedback on, I will delete the other ones so it makes it less confusing.
     
  16. ChickenOfTheSea

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    Yes on B
     
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    Yes on B
     
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    So there's two, now I need either Johud or Rush or Keller to approve and it can go through

    @Keller
    @rushers24
    @JoHud
     
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    Yes for b
     
  21. kdpnutter

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    Sweet so this processes.

    @Keller when can you process this on the Redskins behalf? I will send the Browns guys out when your ready. I just don't want to screw up FA stuff by putting guys out there. I will update the Roster Management sheet ASAP.
     

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