Discussion in 'The Cheap Seats' started by Fmode11, Jan 30, 2013.
Most historical in what context?
UCLA only because what they did will never be done again 64 - 75 that right there is untouchable. Otherwise they may just be at the bottom of the list ..... UConn as a program should be there as well.
Go Buckeyes !!!
Wow you're taking this way too far. Unless people know the facts, they aren't going to be able to vote. Kansas' first coach is the creator of the game who is buried there. Kentucky's most successful coach played at Kansas and learned the game there. North Carolina's most successful coach played there and learned the game there. Larry brown, John calipari, bill self, Roy Williams, Phog Allen, dean smith, Adolph rupp, James Naismith have all coached or learned their coaching trade there.
Kentucky is the most successful team all time but Kansas is the most historical because they are nearly as successful in addition to all the names that came through Lawrence that made other schools the powers and names they are today.
Btw none of this matters because its all opinion anyway.
Ucla was great and did things no one will ever do again but a decade isn't history. Had they sustained that success throughout their history, heck yeah but they've basically been most about that one decade with wooden.
Pretty much, it's all subjective and depends on your personal definition of historical. I can tell you one thing though. It's not Michigan state.
11 votes, none for Kansas.
I voted UNC obviously alittle bias.. Would not be Kansas though... Not at all
Yes, because 11 people can't be wrong. They mostly voted for UCLA who won all but one of their titles in 11 years with one coach and have made the final four 5 times since 1975 (the year of their last championship and end of their dominant decade) and missed the tournament all together 8 times since then. That means they were dominant for a decade and largely irrelevant for the rest of their history. History is about your entire program. Not 11 years of your program. It's about coaches and players who have went through your program and walked through your locker room. UCLA definitely has players but besides the great John Wooden, Denny Crum and Larry Brown (who Kansas also has had), who else? Kansas has made it to the final four 8 times since 1975, 6 times before 1975 stretching from 1940-2012 and most were within a few years of each other. Kansas has missed the tournament once since 1984 (1989) and it was because we were on probation. We have only been higher than a 5 seed three times in that time and no higher than an 8 seed. The creator of the game coached there along with Phog Allen, Dean Smith, Adolph Rupp (both assistants under Phog Allen), Roy Williams, Larry Brown, John Calipari (assistant under Larry Brown) and now Bill Self. That's #3, 4, 14, and 20 on the all time winningest coaches list and the most successful coaches for the top 3 most winningest programs in the history of D1 NCAA Men's basketball. That means 12 NCAA tournament championships have been won by former/current head/assistant coaches of Kansas, and an NBA championship. Plus, as I said, the creator of the damn game was our first coach. His hand written rules are in Allen Fieldhouse. So yeah, this proved nothing except that it's not Michigan State. Good day to you sir.
And your point...
Much of your success was thanks to a Kansas player/grad/former coach. Same with Kentucky. The 1st and 3rd most winningest programs in history. 2nd is Kansas. That's why Kansas is the most historic. I'm not saying Kansas is the best of all time because I think that's Kentucky hands down. There aren't any other teams that have produced so many of the greatest coaches of all time and especially while having the creator of the game there and while being successful themselves throughout their whole history.
I voted for other - Purdue.
How's this season going?
All I hear is Kevin Bacon reading all this mumbling... 7 degrees?
Hey be sure and watch those videos I posted - those 3 made a living off destroying Izzo-lead teams. You'll enjoy reliving it!
"It was the worst team that Kansas ever put on the floor, since Dr. Naismith was there," coach Bill Self said. "I think he had some bad teams when he lost to Topeka YMCA and things like that in the first couple years. But for the first half, there hasn't been a team play worse than that offensively."
I feel bad. After posting this survey, Kansas loses three in a row. Picked up a nice win against rival KSU last night. Still I don't think Kansas is much better than sweet 16 material this year.
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