Shuffman

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  1. natedawg212000

    natedawg212000 New Orleans Saints

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    Shuffman

    Ok. I've been chessed in about 50% of my games this year. I am probably just a little more than slightly sensitive to how guys play when they play me.

    The falcons owner (Shuffman) moved his FS EVERY single play (not against the rules, just weird). He put him in the LB several times (I told him to stop), he moved his dline manually (he said he was a accident), and he moved his players presnap on FG tries (he didn't know that was against the rules).

    I really could handle AAAAALLLLLLL that, but he done something else the WHOLE game that simply drove me batty.

    He ran counters or misdirections ALL FREAKING GAME. He mixed in a few tosses and wildcat, but the counters and misdirections were just out of hand. I saved 5 of them to show the exact play i am talking about. both rb's left and right, all game long.

    I am going to talk to him, but i want you guys to check the videos out and see if i am just ubber sensitive or was this really out of hand?
     
  2. sammymitchell25

    sammymitchell25 Walk On

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    You seem a-little more sensitive
     
  3. sammymitchell25

    sammymitchell25 Walk On

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    yeah, let him know what u saw that he was doing, and he'll fix, then no other owners should complain after that.

    I remember my game my first year when I was the Browns vs Steelers and ZF10 (who I thought was Cadepetty also), but thats another story. The Steelers cheesed me with the same 3 plays all game. A toss or stretch with Mendenhall, or Parker, and a bootleg PA to Holmes across middle ALL GAME LONG.

    I went about it the wrong way by posting it on the front page of the Forum. Now knowing that wasn't cool, but no other owner complained about him the rest of the time he was here.
     
  4. sammymitchell25

    sammymitchell25 Walk On

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    Yeah, it IS the same exact play, just flipped in a few. But just saying that I run the ball about 25 times a game and I know about 6 or 7 of them will be the PowerO, Which I think was the play in those vids.

    Unless he did it alot more than that?
     
  5. Jeremy

    Jeremy The ONLY 2 time OMFL CHampion!!!!

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    I scrimmaged him on Saturday. I do not remember any repetative playcalling but he was very close to breaking our player movement rules. All in all, it was an overall SIM game within the rules.

    In the posted vids, it does seem he needs to mix up playcalling. Just flipping the play with a different back is not good enough.
     
  6. Big D

    Big D Walk On

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    Ok, here are my thoughts on this......

    I really DO think that Huffman is trying to become a sim player for this league. He has asked me literally dozens of questions about specific gameplay issues to make sure he could do them, so I know he is trying not to cheese. From talking to him, I really think he is a solid guy and will be great over time for this league.

    He's one of those guys, that if he was breaking the rules....if you talked to him about it during the game I'm sure he would change it. Also, in talking to him afterward he said Nate threw a lag-induced pick near the end of the game........but huffman gave the ball back to him to be fair. Don't know if that is true or not, but if it is he should be commended for that at least.

    All this said, I get Nate's frustration....as many of our newer owners have been borderline cheesy to say the least. I am going to post a few suggestions this morning to help us alleviate that.

    Below is the convo I had with SHuffman last night after Nate messaged me what had happened.

    (12:41:39 AM): Huff u there? Pause ur game.
    (12:41:48 AM): Nate needs to talk 2 you.
    (12:42:16 AM): He was mad about somethin, but I told him u were a solid guy and he should just talk 2 u.
    Shuffman25 12:55 am
    (12:55:28 AM): ya i dont know he seems pissing about me running alot
    (12:55:57 AM): i had alot of success on counters i think they just stuck out more in his head said i ran them to much
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    sterlingcoug 12:58 am
    (12:58:53 AM): What did he say?
    Shuffman25 12:59 am
    (12:59:14 AM): he didnt reply i wrote it down
    (12:59:18 AM): 24 rushes
    sterlingcoug 12:59 am
    (12:59:33 AM): Wrote down what?
    Shuffman25 12:59 am
    (12:59:48 AM): 6 counters 9 dives streches 4 tosses 5 wildcats
    (12:59:53 AM): my running
    (12:59:59 AM): is 6 counters to much ?
    sterlingcoug 1:00 am
    (1:00:32 AM): Ok. I know ur a level headed guy.
    Shuffman25 1:00 am
    (1:00:34 AM): my formations where always mixed up
    sterlingcoug 1:00 am
    (1:00:47 AM): No, 6 counters isn't.
    Shuffman25 1:01 am
    (1:01:00 AM): he even threw a lag ball i gave back to him after i int
    sterlingcoug 1:01 am
    (1:01:10 AM): Maybe he thought some of the otherws were counters
    Shuffman25 1:01 am
    (1:01:11 AM): would have won the game for me
    (1:01:31 AM): idk the counters where big gainers
    (1:01:39 AM): maybe thats why they stuck out in his head
    sterlingcoug 1:01 am
    (1:01:52 AM): Hey your gonna be great for the league.....don't take it personally.
    (1:02:07 AM): Everybody has some things to clean up.
    (1:02:19 AM): But no 6 counters isn't too $any
    (1:02:26 AM): Many
    (1:02:41 AM): You won I take it?
    Shuffman25 1:03 am
    (1:03:02 AM): no we went in to ot and i lost
    sterlingcoug 1:03 am
    (1:03:16 AM): Well I think you are fine.
    Shuffman25 1:03 am
    (1:03:19 AM): i had the game won on a pass
    (1:03:27 AM): where he was tapping x at the line
    (1:03:30 AM): and throw a lob
    (1:03:37 AM): and i just gave it back to him
    sterlingcoug 1:03 am
    (1:03:38 AM): Your running game was frustrating me but it wasn't cheese it was just good.
    (1:03:52 AM): Tapping X? I don't know what that means.
    Shuffman25 1:04 am
    (1:04:05 AM): you know where trying to get the snap off real fast
    (1:04:09 AM): and u accidently
    (1:04:12 AM): throw it to x
    (1:04:18 AM): and its a lobber
    sterlingcoug 1:04 am
    (1:04:22 AM): Yah.
    Shuffman25 1:04 am
    (1:04:25 AM): he did that
    (1:04:44 AM): with like 3 mins to go on his 35 and i was up
    sterlingcoug 1:04 am
    (1:04:50 AM): Yah.....that was cool of u dude.
    (1:04:51 AM): When did that happen?
    Shuffman25 1:04 am
    (1:04:54 AM): i got the ball kicked a fg and missed it on purpose
    Shuffman25 1:06 am
    (1:06:14 AM): well a run game is basically 3 plays
    (1:06:20 AM): inside outside or counter
    (1:06:28 AM): dont know how much more balance i can have lol
    sterlingcoug 1:06 am
    (1:06:41 AM): Ok. Well that was cool dude.
    (1:07:20 AM): Maybe you were frustrating him cuz your run game was good. Like I said don't take it personal, nates a good guy.
    Shuffman25 1:07 am
    (1:07:31 AM): the wildcat i keep it over give it to norwood around the edge not alot of options here lol
    (1:07:39 AM): i tryed to keep everthing even
    (1:07:55 AM): ya turner was running all over him falling for 7-8 yards dragging people
    sterlingcoug 1:08 am
    (1:08:06 AM): Don't worry about it ur fine. I'll talk to him
    Shuffman25 1:08 am
    (1:08:33 AM): ya thats cool just in a ground attack u got 3 options
    (1:08:39 AM): inside outside or counter
    sterlingcoug 1:09 am
    (1:09:02 AM): Do me a favor. Copy our convo and send it to me ina PM on the forums plz.
     
  7. weblink21

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    Thanks dunlap. If he is a little cheesy now, but is trying to adjust then I think we should give him a break. It is cool that he wants to try to adjust. It's the ones that say there is nothing wrong with their game that I drive me crazy.
     
  8. natedawg212000

    natedawg212000 New Orleans Saints

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    those were the only 5 highlights i could save (only allows 5). that play was ran (between both rb's and on both left and right) at least 15-20 times. It was basically the only running play he called.
     
  9. Claven

    Claven OMFL-Redskins

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    First off no way he remembers exactly how many of each type of run he did, even right after a game was played. I think he should just be given a warning about gameplay and we move on
     
  10. natedawg212000

    natedawg212000 New Orleans Saints

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    Well he wasn't telling the truth. I showed you guys 5 plays. This kinda stuff frustrates me and is driving me to just letting you guys have this puppy and bow out. Good guy or not, he ran the same crappy counter 15 times between both rb's to the left and to the right. It was cheesy and crappy. I am just sick of having to defend myself all freaking year. I've played online madden football leagues for 12 years. I think I know a thing or two about cheese play and sim play.
     

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