This is an open discussion for the league to discuss a wide problem that is spreading with this new Madden. If you are not interested in truly figuring out a solution, and are only interested in stirring the pot, then please keep your thoughts to yourself. Other than that, you are free to post. Bottom line is we are stuck with AM. I know some hate it, some love it, but it's probably not the best ever Madden that's been created. With the personal feelings of this Madden, or its settings aside, we must look at 2 serious issues. From all of the discussions I am having with guys who have been playing online madden since online madden was created (and yes, I am one of those guys), and talking with guys who are fairly new to online madden (last 2-4 years), and also listening to discussions going on in the blast chat; we have some issues that need resolving or the OMFL will not last until 2k12. There is a fine line between enjoyment and realisium. It's always been the hard part of what we do as a comittee to find rules that guide and govern the play, but not too many rules where guys can be flexable, game plan and see their hard work pay off in W's. The issue with AM right now is that Man coverage and defense as a whole is extremly good and fairly easy for some to be really good at. If you were a dominate D player in 2k10, then its pretty easy to totally totally shut teams down in 2k11. Guys have learned how to stay within our current rules, find new stuff that now works too well for this madden, and do it over and over and over again. We are begining to lose very good owners, owners who know their online madden and know what straight games are. I personally have only had a hand full of games this year that have been enjoyable. When you lose, in a straight up game, its not fun, but the game itself is enjoyable. You can tip your hat to the other guy because he made more plays and beat you. That's not the case in this madden. Often owners are feeling they lost, but not to a better owner who out coached them, but to a owner who decided to do more cheesy stuff than the other guy. I personally feel this is the case. the winner isn't always the better coach and team, its the guy who will push the envelope further. Sad, but in most cases, true. Let me stop beating around the bush and straight up name the issues that we are facing. -8 in the box all game -blitzing all game -man all game -same D all game (same plays or type of plays) -hot routes and audibles (O and D) A - 8 in the box all game. I know one of my recent games I faced a team who had 8 in the box all game long. Simply put, in this AM setting, its not fun, not enjoyable, and not super sim. It just works too good. Guys are putting 8 in the box all game, and manning up, and blitzing. A lot of times its pretty hard to beat, and some times unbeatable. QB's are getting sacked 1 second after hiking the ball, Defenders are just flying every where, simply put theres no down side to putting 8 in the box and because of that this has become a trend. I wish, I really do, that we could just talk to owners and say quit it, but I dont think thats going to happen. Something needs to give, because this is quickly becoming a new age cheese tactic that will hurt the longevity of this league. My suggestion is to outlaw 4/6 is a full time defense and put a percentage like we do offensive plays, as to how much it can be used. Short yardage is fine, no limit imo, but a full time every down D - cheese. B - blitzing all game long. Guys are doing this all game because man vs man is just so darn good and Defenses are so fast that guys aren't having a chance to do anything. In real life, most teams will catch on and burn guys who blitz all game long. I know some games it has to happen, whatever. You know what is sim and not sim, and this is again, quickly becoming a cheese tactic which is being used by too many folks. My suggestion is as above. If it continues and guys don't back off then put a percentage on it. The main problem is theres not a whole lotta ways to track this stuff. What's going to happen is if you continue to get complained about, you will be shown the door. Proof or no proof. C - Look we get it guys, man vs man is beastly in this version. This doesn't mean you shouldn't run any zone. Last version zone was broke and a lot of guys wouldn't run it and I think thats bull. I ran close to 50/50 zone/man last version and I do the same here. You play sim, regardless of what works great and what doesnt. My suggestion is if you dont back off and learn to run some zone, and guys complain, more than 4 complaints in the same season, you're gone, no questions asked. Sounds harsh, but it's time to clean up this cheesy D stuff that's spreading like wild fire around here. D - Because of the above reasons teams are running the same crap defense over and over and over again. Look if it's cheesy on O, then its cheesy on D. Guys seriously need to mix it up. See my suggestion above. E - this is probably the biggest epidemic that is spreading throughout the league today. This is becoming a major issue. While listening to some discussions in the blast chat I read some guys discussing calling a zone D, and hot routing LB's to play man. Basically making up their own D play. TOTAL CHEESEFEST. You called it - YOU RUN IT. Same on O and D, IMO. This hot routing WRs and TEs on O and LBs and Safeties on D is total out of line. It's cheese no matter how you slice is. I am ok with the occasional hot route and audible, it happens, but it shouldn't happen more than 4-7 times a game. Anything more is cheese. You picked the playbook, you picked the play, RUN WHAT YOU CALLED. Same thing goes for calling a sweep and taking it up the gut or calling a blast and running outside. Same thing for calling a O play and hot routing guys all over the place to make up your own play, same thing with hot routing every down on D to make you own special D. STOP IT. My suggestion is if this can't quit like men, then we make a rule that limits the amount of hot routes and audibles that can be used per game. IMO 10 combined hot routes and audible per game is PLENTY. The other issue is there is no good way to track this either, so if you get more than 3 complaints per season - you're gone, no questions asked. Let's discuss as a league, and like men, and see what we all think here. These are serious issues that need to be taken care of.