Tie Breaking Procedures

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  1. CHUNKNESS

    CHUNKNESS Commissioner Quality Simulation Football

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    Please be advised that the tie-breaking procedures are still programmed incorrectly. One of the teams in our league got snubbed as a result of inaccurate Wild Card tie breaking procedure. Normally we would have just swapped the rosters out so that the correct team could have played, just in different uni's. However, we don't even have that option with this year's release unless there will be a future update which allows commissioners to make roster edits to all 32 teams. Damn it already!
     
  2. nellycuz

    nellycuz I'm an educated fool w/ $$ on my mind.

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    Ouch....how can you get such a basic rule/regulation wrong? weak
     
  3. CHUNKNESS

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    The seedings were determined incorrectly as well giving a Wild Card team (Cardinals 10-6) the #4 seed over a team that won its division (Eagles 10-6); thus giving the Wild Card team home field advantage when they should have been the #5 seed since they didn't win their division.
     
  4. Cheez

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    What was the scenario for the team getting snubbed?
     
  5. CHUNKNESS

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    ORANGE: Panthers (9-7) and 49ers (9-7)

    1. No head-to-head​
    2. Conference records tied (6-6)​
    3. Common games - did not play minimum of four​
    4. Panthers win SOV tie break with 103 point differential versus the 49ers -17​

    YELLOW: Eagles (10-6) and Cardinals (10-6)

    The Eagles were the division champion in the NFC East and the Cardinals were the Wild Card club with the best record. Therefore, the Eagles should have been given the #4 seed AND home field advantage against the Cardinals who should have been the #5 seed. Instead, the Cardinals were given the #4 seed and home field advantage most likely because of Conference record (Eagles 8-4, Cardinals 9-3) which would not apply.

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  6. Cheez

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    Strength of victory is the combined win percentage of the opponents a particular team has beaten. Has nothing to do with points.

    As far as the Eagles / Cardinals - that one I've got nothing.
     
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  7. CHUNKNESS

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    Incorrect, that is strength of schedule, tie-break procedure #5...
     
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    strength of schedule is the combined winning percentage of all opponents played.
    strength of victory is the combined winning percentage of the opponents a team defeated.

    There is a difference. You are incorrect.
     
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  10. CHUNKNESS

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    I stand corrected. But even so, the tie-break procedures were incorrect as the Panthers combined winning % of all opponents played was 49% whereas the 49ers was 47%. I've added the calculations to the document (scroll to the bottom of the worksheet)...

     
  11. Cheez

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    you did strength of schedule. what was each teams strength of victory?
     
  12. CHUNKNESS

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    I'm a moron. Panthers still come out on top with SOV...

     
  13. CHUNKNESS

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    Looking at this, both teams had common opponents. However, would divisional opponents be counted twice? Either way, both teams suffered losses to their divisional opponents and still would be tied...

    Panthers common opponents: Saints (L), Giants (W), Bears (W), Seahawks (L), Saints (L)

    49ers common opponents: Giants (W), Seahawks (L), Bears (W), Saints (L), Seahawks (L)
     
  14. majesty95

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    I'm confused so I can see how the devs were :p
     
  15. Kidofcrash23

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    Ya, but im sure the developers could easily understand division winner > wildcard winner regardless of record.
     
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