Titans and Broncos Reach Deal

Discussion in 'Team Management' started by kdpnutter, Jan 18, 2012.

  1. kdpnutter

    kdpnutter Walk On

    Joined:
    Aug 31, 2010
    Messages:
    3,898
    Broncos Send:
    RG Chris Kuper 83 ovr B potential
    CB Brandon Browner 79 ovr B potential
    Cardinals 2nd Round Pick

    Titans Send:
    OLB Akeem Ayers 80 ovr B potential
    CB Alteron Verner 86 ovr A potential

    Denver gets it's corner to replace Champ Bailey while losing out top CB right now, and lose a top O-line but get some help on the other OLB slot to go with Von Miller. Titans get another draft pick they were looking for, as well as a replacement CB for Verner and a top O-line to help solidify there offensive line or possibly to play at C as their C is terrible.

    BobJr
    Keller
    Jmustang1968
    Emmdotfrisk
    Shaun Mason
    @Azure Effect
     
  2. Jmustang1968

    Jmustang1968 Walk On

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,018
    This trade seems fair, I approve
     
  3. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    I'll need to see ages.
     
  4. Shaun Mason

    Shaun Mason Somebody you used to know.

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2009
    Messages:
    24,887
    Featured Threads:
    5
    This
     
  5. Emmdotfrisk

    Emmdotfrisk Working half days on my days off.

    Joined:
    Oct 8, 2009
    Messages:
    11,955
    I agree, I also approve.
     
  6. AzureEffect

    AzureEffect Walk On

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    992
    From Broncos:
    Kuper 30 yrs old
    Browner 28 yrs old

    From Titans:
    Verner 24 yrs old
    Ayers 23 yrs old
     
  7. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    Thats a huge no from me then.

    Young Apot corner, young Bpot LBer (though he is on the slow side) and in return you're getting garbage IMO.

    Kuper does not hold the same value of either of these players and while Browner is interesting because of his size (he's a 6'4 cb, which is very unique) the real key is just the 2nd rounder (which isn't all that great as the Cardinals were 9-7.

    I do not think the Titans are getting enough in return.
     
    Last edited: Jan 18, 2012
  8. AzureEffect

    AzureEffect Walk On

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    992
    Which is it; you dont like the deal for the Titans or the Broncos because you said Im getting garbage in return BUT the end of the post says the Broncos aren't getting enough in return.
     
  9. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    Sorry. Fixed it.
     
  10. Jmustang1968

    Jmustang1968 Walk On

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,018
    There is also a 2nd rounder in there, and Kuper will probably stay at 83 for the remainder... Oline tend to hold their ratings from what I have seen fairly well... Keep in mind that 2nd is almost a first, a low 2nd
     
  11. Shaun Mason

    Shaun Mason Somebody you used to know.

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2009
    Messages:
    24,887
    Featured Threads:
    5
    I approve the trade.
     
  12. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    The cardinals were 9-7 - its not almost a 1st.

    Kuper may hold his rating but I have seen just the opposite. Olineman regress oddly, IMO.
     
  13. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    AzureEffect I will offer you a better deal for your players :)
     
  14. Jmustang1968

    Jmustang1968 Walk On

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,018
    oh I was thinking it was the Broncos 2nd, had to re-read that...
     
  15. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    If there are 3 votes to approve then this is approved.

    Its up to the two teams involved to make this trade happen now - once the offseason arrives.
     
  16. Jmustang1968

    Jmustang1968 Walk On

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,018
    That's shady...
     
  17. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    Why?

    Because I'm on the trade committee or any user trying to undercut a trade would be shady?
     
  18. Jmustang1968

    Jmustang1968 Walk On

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,018
    more so on the first one, a little on the 2nd
     
  19. AzureEffect

    AzureEffect Walk On

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    992
    To be honest; I thought the deal was a little slanted in the Broncos favor due to the age of the players I was giving up as opposed to the ones he was giving up. I was willing to do it (and still am) but I always like to hear deals Keller. Message to the League: I am always in the dealing business; so if you have interest in a player; contact me. Worst answer is always "NO; but...."
     
  20. RynoAid

    RynoAid ..

    Joined:
    Feb 9, 2009
    Messages:
    9,192
    dude, that's bullshit Keller... as a commissioner and trade committee member you have to hold yourself to a higher standard than poaching agreed upon trades.. ridiculous.
     
  21. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    Interesting.

    Do you think we should put something in the rule-book about undercutting trades then?

    I agree its not something that would likely happen - teams in the NFL don't discuss their trades publicly - so maybe we should do something about it? Maybe like - once a trade is proposed to the trade committee for approval, it cannot be retracted or changed? That stops people from backing out of trades so it stops other owners from being able to see a trade then offering a better deal.
     
  22. Jmustang1968

    Jmustang1968 Walk On

    Joined:
    Jul 14, 2010
    Messages:
    8,018
    Or maybe trades get pmed to the trade committee and only announced once finalized? that might help some, otherwise it is hard to regulate or control...
     
  23. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    I'm not trying to cause problems - I said that merely as another owner, not as commissioner or trade committee member. As I said above, I'm all for trying to close that loophole if people think that's the correct course of action.
     
  24. Keller

    Keller The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

    Joined:
    Apr 14, 2010
    Messages:
    13,939
    I like this idea as well.

    I'd like to hear what the other committee members think too.
     
  25. AzureEffect

    AzureEffect Walk On

    Joined:
    Jan 16, 2012
    Messages:
    992
    I just need to know where the deal goes from here; because it looked to be on the way to being a done deal. The Broncos would just kinda owe me one; as I wasnt 100% comfortable with the deal but settled due to acquiring another 2nd round pick. Verners 91 MCV & 94 ZCV is hard to find in a young player and is DEFINITELY not in this Draft right off the bat.
     

Share This Page